Talk:Timeline of the investigation into the 2012 Benghazi attack

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Removal of certain stuff.

I don’t disagree with these two edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_the_investigation_into_the_2012_Benghazi_attack&oldid=529062004 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_the_investigation_into_the_2012_Benghazi_attack&oldid=529063589 here], but I reverted them because no reason was given, and I wanted to make sure that no one had any reasonable objection to their removal. What do people think? RGloucester (talk) 05:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

:I've gone and reinstated the cuts. I think it is worthwhile. RGloucester (talk) 19:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Obama activities night of attack

There has been much [https://www.google.com/search?q=Obama+briefed+benghazi+11+September&hl=en&safe=active&biw=732&bih=653&sa=X&ei=zY0VUeuiH4isiALvnoHQAQ&ved=0CB0QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A9%2F11%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F12%2F2012&tbm=#q=Obama+briefed+benghazi+11+September&hl=en&safe=active&tbo=d&tbas=0&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:w&sa=X&ei=io4VUefkOOOsigL23IGoAw&ved=0CBsQpwUoAw&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42080656,d.cGE&fp=8ad6edeafb30c494&biw=732&bih=653 written recently] regarding what President Obama had done the afternoon to night of the attack. Also, it was reported that the night of the attack the President attended a fundraiser hosted by Jay-Z ([http://rapfix.mtv.com/2012/09/11/beyonce-jay-z-obama-fundraiser-nyc/ MTV], [http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/09/12/Obama-Snubs-Netanyahu-Attends-Jayz-Fundraiser Brietbart], [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/jay-z-beyonce-obama-fundraiser_n_1874623.html Huffington Post], [http://news-briefs.ew.com/2012/09/11/jay-z-beyonce-obama-fundraiser/ Enterntainment Weekly]). Yet this is not mentioned anywhere in the main article, or this sub-article. Does it have sufficient weight to be included?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:01, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

:Demonstrating the facts of the President's activities for the entire day of 9-11-12 seems to be a worthy goal. Several sources had to be removed because they did not match the actual timeline. For example, whereas some sources speculated based on unnamed contacts that the President was in the control room watching the attack begin to unfold, he was in fact at Bethesda when the attack commenced. Likewise, if the President's further actions could be construed by the reader as frivolous, they are nonetheless important to present. Rather than favor any observation based on chronologyy alone, the entire day should be represented so the reader can draw their own conclusions. ClaudeReigns (talk) 04:13, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

::Here is what was [http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11 posted for the day] at whitehouse.gov. And this is what was posted for the [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/11/on-the-trail-september-11-2012/ day on CNN].

:: SECDEF Panetta, states that on the day of the attack, that [http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/07/panetta-cant-explain-why-obama-never-called-back-during-benghazi-attack-video/ he only spoke to POTUS Obama once for 30 minutes] at around 1700 eastern time. Here is the [http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310872-1 CSPAN video of the questioning on 7FEB2013 directly from their website].--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 14:47, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

GEN Ham and RDML Gaouette

Should there be mentions of the removal of command of GEN Ham and RDML Gaouette? There are references that connect the two to the subject of this article, and references that deny that the removal of the two general/flag officers are connected to the attacks.

  • {{cite news |title=Navy Replaces Admiral Leading Mideast Strike Group Because of Ongoing Investigation |author=Luis Martinez |url=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group-because-of-ongoing-investigation/ |newspaper=ABC News |date=27 October 2012 |accessdate= }}
  • {{cite news |title=Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group |agency=Associated Press |url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/27/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group/ |newspaper=Fox News |date=27 October 2012 |accessdate= }}
  • {{cite news |title=1-star firing a public rebuke for decorated CO |author=Sam Fellman |url=http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/11/navy-1-star-firing-stennis-strike-group-public-rebuke-110412/ |newspaper=Navy Times |date=4 November 2012 |accessdate= }}
  • {{cite news |title=Navy denies Stennis leader removed over Libya |author=Jeanette Steele |url=http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/oct/31/navy-denies-stennis-skipper-removed-over-libya/ |newspaper=San Diego Union Tribune |date=31 October 2012 |accessdate= }}
  • {{cite news |title=Facts and questions about what happened in Benghazi |author=Jennifer Griffin |author2=Adam Housley |url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/22/facts-and-questions-about-what-happened-in-benghazi/ |newspaper=Fox News |date=22 January 2013 |accessdate= }}
  • {{cite news |title=Libya Attack Shows Pentagon’s Limits in Region |author=Michael R. Gordan |author2=Eric Schmitt |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/world/africa/benghazi-attack-raises-doubts-about-us-abilities-in-region.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 |newspaper=New York Times |date=3 November 2012 |accessdate= }}
  • {{cite news |title=Pentagon: Speculation that Gen. Ham is leaving over Benghazi 'absolutely false' |agency=American Forces Press Service |url=http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/u-s-world/pentagon-speculation-that-gen-ham-is-leaving-over-benghazi-absolutely-false |newspaper=KMGH |date=2 November 2012 |accessdate= }}
  • {{cite news |title=AFRICOM chief Gen. Carter Ham says some of Benghazi attackers had al Qaeda "linkages" |agency=Associated Press |url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57549657/africom-chief-gen-carter-ham-says-some-of-benghazi-attackers-had-al-qaeda-linkages/ |newspaper=CBS News |date=14 November 2012 |accessdate= }}

--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 09:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)