Talk:Trialeti culture#rfc 24D3B77

Please resist the temptation to put irrelevant materials on the article.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 07:54, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

This culture is called Trialeti-Vanadzor culture, and the name of the page should properly reflect this name. This is how it is primarily referred to in academia, including most/all sources used to cite this page. This page's title should reflect its proper name. Precedence is set for various other cultures in the region, such as Shulaveri-Shomu culture, Kura-Araxes culture, Lchashen-Metsamor culture, etc. Skeptical1800 (talk) 00:22, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

: Faulty Rfc; I have removed the rfc header. If you want to have a formal process on a title change, you need to do a move request, not an WP:RFC. The previous move request was just decided a few months ago. If you wish to renew the old move request or start a new one, please see the section just above and contact the closer about how to proceed. If you just want to talk about the title, you are welcome to do so in any discussion section. You don't need a move request or an Rfc just to talk, and you can carry on in this section and keep on discussing. Mathglot (talk) 02:15, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

{{requested move/dated|Trialeti-Vanadzor culture}}

:Trialeti culture → {{no redirect|Trialeti-Vanadzor culture}} – The overwhelming majority of contemporary academic/scholastic sources use the name "Trialeti-Vanadzor culture" for this culture, not "Trialeti culture." This is reflected in most of the sources used on this page (see: Joan Aruz, Kim Benzel, Jean M. Evans, Beyond Babylon: Art, Trade, and Diplomacy in the Second Millennium B.C. Metropolitan Museum of Art (New York) [https://books.google.com/books?id=gr5BgOwEJicC&dq=trialeti+vanadzor+indo+european&pg=PA92] (2008) p. 92 Sandra Scham. An Archaeology of Persecuted Peoples: Religion and Hate in the Mountains of Asia. Routledge. 2025. "Later in the Bronze Age (2200-1600 BCE), the Trialeti culture arose in Armenia. This may have been the first Indo-European culture and possibly the origin of what would become Armenian culture."Daniel T. Potts [https://books.google.com/books?id=7lK6l7oF_ccC&pg=PA681 A Companion to the Archaeology of the Ancient Near East.] Volume 94 of Blackwell Companions to the Ancient World. John Wiley & Sons, 2012 {{ISBN|1405189886}} p.681Aynur ÖZFIRAT (2008), [http://www.mku.edu.tr/files/1113_dosya_1355509802.pdf THE HIGHLAND PLATEAU OF EASTERN ANATOLİA IN THE SECOND MILLENNIUM BCE: MIDDLE/LATE BRONZE AGES]{{cite journal|last=Edens|first=Christoper|title=Transcaucasia at the End of the Early Bronze Age|journal=Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research|date=Aug–Nov 1995|volume=299/300|issue=The Archaeology of Empire in Ancient Anatolia|pages=60, 53–64|jstor=1357345|publisher=The American Schools of Oriental Research|doi=10.2307/1357345|s2cid=163585471 }}). There is a precedence for numerous other cultures on Wikipedia (such as Shulaveri-Shomu culture, Kura-Araxes culture, Lchashen-Metsamor culture, etc.) using these cultures’ full academic names in their page titles, regardless of Google results, geographic locations of the sites named in the cultures, etc. The argument that there are more Google search results for "Trialeti culture" is irrelevant. This is akin to arguing "Francis" gets more Google search results than "Pope Francis" so Pope Francis should be moved to Francis. Skeptical1800 (talk) 17:51, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:Comment {{sbb}} Readers should note this question appears to have political viewpoints involved.

:Readers may also want to review a Google Scholar search for {{Google scholar| | “Trialeti culture”}} and {{Google scholar | “Trialeti-Vanadzor culture” }}. The first page for “Trialeti culture” at least seems to use the term alone, and not as part of the hyphened name, which would at least imply a sincere move on the part of the previous requested move. — HTGS (talk) 22:57, 26 April 2025 (UTC)