Talk:Veruschka von Lehndorff#Requested move 24 April 2025

"Veruschka was born in 1939 in East Prussia as Vera Gottliebe Anna Gräfin von Lehndorff-Steinort. For a short time, she enjoyed a wealthy lifestyle residing in East Prussia in a large house on an enormous estate that had been in her family for centuries."

I know that this is beyond the comprehensions of Americans who think that The Queen wears a crown or at least a tiara while having a shit, but people of that class, the Protestant landed gentry in the eastern provinces of the German Reich, very often lead a very frugal lifestyle, in spite of the huge estate and the big house, a lifestyle most trailer park dwellers at your end would find beyond what they deserve themselves, first because those immovables were all they had and second (IF they had means beyond that) because they would have found "a wealthy lifestyle" as you understand it immodest, even unethical.

Just to fight clichés!

Tiritomba (talk) 12:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please continue the discussion on how hard it was to be landed gentry. I wonder if there isn't someway one can donate to them to help out, perhaps through AMWAY or the Red Cross. 178.5.209.198 (talk) 19:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Tiritimba is correct. My friend, artist J. Girth, married a German baron who was land-rich, and had a house

filled with priceless antiques, but was cash-poor. The antiques could never be sold, because the current head of the family

(J. and her baron, in this case) were expected to cherish and save them for future generations, forever. This was

not an unusual situation for aristocrats with country estates. J. Girth slopped the hogs, slaughtered the chickens,

planted the garden, and they lived very frugally.

Younggoldchip (talk) 15:44, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Didn't she lose a breast to cancer? And didn't she then, having apparently made no effort at reconstruction, pose for some photos revealing the scars and her one remaining breast--presumably to raise awareness of breast cancer? Or am I thinking of the wrong model? 140.147.236.194 (talk) 22:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

:OK, I'm the person who wrote the question above. Now I have both a Wikipedia account and an answer to the question.

:It wasn't Veruschka. It was a model and artist known as Matuschka. That's the only name I've found; I've also gathered that she's of a more recent generation than Veruschka. With the name, the story and the picture are very easy to find on the Internet. Uporządnicki (talk) 19:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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:Veruschka von Lehndorff → {{no redirect|Veruschka}} – Veruschka von Lehndorff is more widely known and referred to as Veruschka than her full name, and there are no other Veruschkas on Wikipedia. I believe it makes sense to move the article to Veruschka. Jayediting (talk) 14:21, 24 April 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 07:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)