Talk:Virgin and Child (Sirani)

{{Copied|from=Elisabetta Sirani|from_oldid=650476220|to=Virgin and Child (Sirani)|to_diff=885422065|date=23:00, 27 February 2019}} Text originally contributed by User:Quintada on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elisabetta_Sirani&diff=650476220&oldid=650474214 Elisabetta Sirani (17:58, 8 March 2015)].

Hi all,

in the article it says: "These types are called asquadretti da letto, which translates to "for personal prayer"; they were bought by the wealthy for personal devotion, normally at home." I´m afraid asquadretto (singular of asquadretti) does not exist in Italian and "da letto" means "in bed". Please provide sources or remove this part — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supraios (talk • contribs) 14:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

The article mentions Sirani and the pronoun "her" quite a bit. This is rather redundant as we all know since the intro it was Sirani who painted the picture. E.g.: Instead of "Sirani's plain dark background..." I would just write "The plain dark background..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supraios (talk • contribs) 14:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

If this is to become a good article, we will need to reflect some academic sources as well. All I saw, were online sources. Here are some suggestions:

• Frattolillo, Angela: Elisabetta Sirani : il genio e la grazia nel Seicento Bolognese / Angela Frattolillo. -

Bologna: Paolo Emilio Persiani, [2018]

Modesti, Adelina: Elisabetta Sirani "Virtuosa" : women's cultural production in early modern Bologna / by Adelina Modesti. -

Turnhout: Brepols, 2014. - XLIV, 448 S. : Ill.

• Elisabetta Sirani : "pittrice eroina", 1638 - 1665 ; [Bologna, Museo Civico Archeologico, 4 dicembre 2004 - 27 febbraio 2005] / a cura di Jadranka Bentini .... -
• Modesti, Adelina: Elisabetta Sirani : una virtuosa del Seicento bolognese / Adelina Modesti. -

Bologna: Compositori, 2004

• Das Galatheabild der Elisabetta Sirani

In: Blätter für Gemäldekunde. 1(1904/05), S. 51

DOI: 10.11588/diglit.20640.46

As is the case in history of art on European Baroque, you should be able to read non-English literature as well. As I´m rather occupied lately, I would like to see some of the original contributors insert foreign language literature. If need be, however, I would volunteer to do some reading in Italian or German and see what information I can add into the article. In that case, gimme a heads up.

Supraios (talk) 14:35, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

:Yes, you'd better do that, which would be great. As it is the article is adequately cited for a start-class aticle, but I agree not yet of GA quality. Johnbod (talk) 15:30, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

::Allright, I´m at it. Could you take care of some of the points I raised above? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supraios (talk • contribs) 18:12, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I have started with a proper description. The description needs to be amended with details.

I will provide scientific sources for the article. Everyone who has contributed to this article, please refer to my criticism under "view history". I know, its harsh, but I´ve studied art history and it causes me pain to read what I´ve read.

Please come up with proper sources if you think I was in the wrong when deleting your contributions.

Supraios (talk) 18:56, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

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