Talk:Viva (British and Irish TV channel)#Requested move 16 April 2025

Talk about the ad campaign? Maybe? --86.155.43.203 (talk) 21:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

:I disagree --Kei_Jo (aka Keithf2008) (Talk to me, baby! :P) 23:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

::Needs a mention (I hate it, but it's important enough to mention!) Ico2 (talk) 02:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

there's only one or two but I definitely know death valley was on there as far as I can remember, because I always used to sneak the tv on as a child and watch it and jackass, I even remember a couple of gory scenes, it was fun Discordcaspian (talk) 02:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

{{requested move/dated|Viva (UK & Ireland)}}

:Viva (British and Irish TV channel) → {{no redirect|Viva (UK & Ireland)}} – Revert to the original page title per the revised WP:NCBC guideline and natural disambiguation. See also the "Television" section of the "Viva" DAB page. Intrisit (talk) 14:02, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NCBC. Viva also refers to topics which are not TV channels, therefore the current title Viva (British and Irish TV channel) is correct, per the guideline. 162 etc. (talk) 16:24, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Per WP:CRITERIA, article titles should be “consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles”. None of the other articles about Viva TV channels use the form “( TV channel)”.

:Kennethmac2000 (talk) 15:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

::In addition, here is an article about one of the UK’s most prominent TV channels which uses the adjectival “UK”, rather than “British”: BBC News (UK TV channel)

::Viva (UK and Irish TV channel) would be preferably to the current name, albeit Viva (UK & Ireland) or Viva (UK and Ireland) is better. Kennethmac2000 (talk) 11:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Viva (Israel) and Viva (Brazil) were both recently moved away from their stable titles by User:Intrisit. Those titles also violate WP:NCBC; reverts have been requested at WP:RMT. 162 etc. (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Would you support Viva (UK and Irish TV channel), aligning with BBC News (UK TV channel)? Kennethmac2000 (talk) 07:47, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: There has been a great deal of activity at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (broadcasting), see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANaming_conventions_%28broadcasting%29&diff=1278246752&oldid=1232849016 here], with no discussion that I can see let alone consensus, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(broadcasting)&action=history here] or am I missing something? They may be good changes but such bold changes seem to me to defeat the whole idea of a naming convention. Perhaps we should temporarily remove that naming convention pending discussion of these changes? Andrewa (talk) 16:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Which particular naming convention are you proposing temporarily removing?
• :An issue I see with WP:NCBC is that the distinction between network, channel and station seems very US-centric, and in many countries in the world, including other English-speaking countries, an attempt to make this distinction is pointless.
• :It also seems bizarre to say that “stations” should be disambiguated with a noun, while “channels” are disambiguated with an adjective.
• :In any case, and separately, I think the adjective for both the United States and the United Kingdom should be “US” and “UK”, not “American” and “British”. Is there any English-language Wikipedia naming convention that says my view on this is incorrect? Kennethmac2000 (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom, although it should probably be "UK and Ireland" rather than using an ampersand.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:57, 24 April 2025 (UTC)