Talk:Wikipedia

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"[[:VVikipedia]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]

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Delete the April Fools AFD's on this page

Per WP:BRD. I want the april fools AFD nominations to be removed from this page. No other talk page does this, it seems pointless, and the "consensus" is wrong anyways. Also there is no humor template. @Johnjbarton SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 04:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:Having a look at Wikipedia:April Fools/April Fools' Day 2024, you might be right. Why did you delete the merge though? CMD (talk) 04:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

::@Chipmunkdavis That was a mistake I made. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:::Done a few more spotchecks, found Talk:Balloon, but that's the only one so far. CMD (talk) 05:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

::::@Chipmunkdavis doesn't really make sense to include april fools AFD nominations. April fools day on wikipedia is contained to just April 1st, not for it to be actually used. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:28, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::They might be humorous, but they were actually filed. I say keep them, it's what the Old Afd-template is for. I don't know of any routine to exclude "funny" afd:s, my default assumption is that if it happened, it should be added. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::Keepers, for the humour alone (and the ever-present historic value). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for starting this discussion. I don't agree with your reasons for your delete:

:* "No other page does this," No other page is named "Wikipedia" either. Many pages have old-AfD listings, but I've never seen such a listing deleted. Perhaps deleting these are more common than I think.

:* "it seems pointless" If you mean the Fools part, please see Humour {{tq|As with any art form, the acceptance of a particular style or incidence of humour depends on sociological factors and varies from person to person.}} If you mean retaining a list of old AfD, then please start an RFC to remove Template:Old XfD multi from all pages.

:* "the "consensus" is wrong anyways." I am unclear on what this means. The word "consensus" appears in your proposed delete in the sentence {{tq| The discussion was closed on 27 February 2010 with a consensus to merge.}} which appears to me to be true based on the records.

:Johnjbarton (talk) 16:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

::As I noted above, from my checks it seems the majority of April Fools AfDs are removed from their relevant talkpages. CMD (talk) 18:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:::@Chipmunkdavis I agree that is a reasonable argument to remove the April Fools AfD on this page. Johnjbarton (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

::@Johnjbarton consensus of the AFD's SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 23:44, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:::If you believe the consensus of the AfD's is incorrect, I suppose you can attempt to appeal them with an RFC but I think that is very unlikely to be popular. I don't see how your opinion on the consensus of these AfD becomes an argument to delete the record. Johnjbarton (talk) 00:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

::::I kind of also agree with you that we should update this page instead of deleting it. Bro StaRs (talk) 02:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

:::::Fwiw, the OP is currently indeffed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:02, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

:*Support removal Generally agree with the consistency argument put forward by SimpleSub. I also can see this being confusing to new editors, who might come to this talk page as they are trying to figure out how Wikipedia works and get a false impression that it is proper process to nominate articles about clearly notable subjects for deletion over concerns about things like article quality, bias, etc. Flip^and Flopped ツ 22:50, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Is it too subjective?

I was about to edit what I thought was subjective in the first paragraph, where it brags about its stats as most visited reference work, and I was about to delete it but I wanted to check first to make sure it wasn't subjective. Empirejack182 (talk) 23:20, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:You will need to build a convincing case the sources given in that paragraph are not reliable. They look good to me. Johnjbarton (talk) 23:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

::I read them, they look good. Empirejack182 (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

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