Talk:World War II casualties

hi,

the numbers of luxembourgish casualties are a little wrong. As often described in multiple books, the percentage of casualties compared to the total 1939 population of luxembourg is around 2%, making it the highest loss suffered by a country in western europe. this is mainly due to the battle of the bulge ravaging half of the country.

Anyway i have the following numbers out of this book: Michel Pauly : Geschichte Luxemburgs , 2013, ISBN-978-3-406-62225-0 p.102:

2848 dead luxembourgers forcefully serving in the german Wehrmacht

2048 dead civilians due to military actions (mainly Battle of the Bulge)

1208 dead deported luxembourgish jews (in concentration camps)

791 dead deported luxembourghish political prisoners (in concentration camps)

154 dead luxembourgish civilians who were forcefully resettled in the east

57 dead luxembourgers due to military actions serving in various allied forced

7106 total casualties -> which brings it to 2,45% of the total prewar population of luxembourg, like described in many books: highest perecentage loss of any western-european country.

This information is in my opinion very important, because the very high death-toll luxembourg had to endure during WWII made the allies recognize Luxembourg's important contribution to the allied war effort and with it Luxembourg's independence was never questioned again. (like after WWI when Belgium and France questionned the commitment of luxembourg to the Entente cause.)

Can somebody please put this right ?

Thank you very much

Letzebuergerr

hi, citation #11's link is actually http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm instead of the one that's currently on the article. the website switched domains and I would like to see an edit reflecting that.

Placing Lithuania and Latvia into Allied nations is dubious at best. Nazis were welcomed as liberatorshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Lithuania_during_World_War_II and the resistance was almost entirely foreign (poles and russians along with Jewish partisans) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Lithuania_during_World_War_II. Casualties numbers are completely unreliable as the only census data available was from 1923 (nearly 20 years before the war) and 1959 (15 years after the war) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Lithuania_during_World_War_II#Demographic_losses. The only point of consensus is that vast majority of casualties were Jewish, Polish and Russian.

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:I agree. The independent states that existed pre-Soviet annexation were not recognised by the Western Allies of 1940 as belligerents and there were no defensive alliances made by the Baltic states with these Allies (then UK, France, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Holland and Luxembourg).Cloptonson (talk) 07:17, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

This link https://thebignote.com/2024/01/22/brookwood-cemetery-the-turkish-air-cemetery/ might be interesting to those able to investigate further. The Refah sinking was not the only loss of Turkish military life; there are 14 Turkish Air Force pilots buried in a special Turkish military plot in Brookwood Military Cemetery (England) who died mainly in flying accidents while training in the UK under Royal Air Force auspices. Their deaths occurred from 1943 into mid 1945 (by which time Turkey was part of the belligerent Allies).Cloptonson (talk) 16:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi,

Although there is a note on the casualties by country table specifying that soldiers from Italy's African colonies are counted among Italy's dead, I was surprised to see nothing of the sort about France's colonies and protectorates (particularly Morocco (Morocco in World War II and French West Africa. My understanding is that soldiers were recruited from France's West African colonies (les "tirailleurs sénégalais, better known for their participation in WWI). This article (https://www.lemonde.fr/en/le-monde-africa/article/2024/07/29/france-makes-gesture-over-wwii-massacre-of-african-troops-on-french-army-orders-in-senegal_6703268_124.html# )refers to a deadly incident after the war but if they were demanding their back pay, then they were in the war, and surely some of them died?

I admit I'm no expert and don't have the figures at my fingertips, but surely some mention of Moroccan and French West AFrican soldiers should be made? Thanks in advance 2A02:8428:71F:2F01:D57A:AE38:BA85:4788 (talk) 20:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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"change the blank in Approx. Totals of Civilian deaths due to Japanese persecution in the Table Human losses of the Japanese Empire in World War II to 7,750,000 to 8,500,000"

"change 3,100,000 in Approx. Totals of Civilian deaths due to Japanese persecution in the Table Human losses of the Japanese Empire in World War II to

10,980,000 to 11,730,000"

Hello there, I noticed that in the table "Human losses of the Japanese Empire in World War II (included in above figures of total war dead)." under "Japanese Empire" under "Human losses by country", the the "Approx. Totals" number of "Civilian deaths due to Japanese persecution" is blank. But there are numbers in the "Country" block above (China: 7,500,000, Burman and India: 250,000 to 1,000,000). That lead to the "Approx. Totals" of "Total deaths" is wrong. I don't have the right to edit it currently, could anyone see this help confirm and correct this? Thank you very much. Keplearning (talk) 20:22, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{pdone}}: The first part of your edit request is done. But the second part is not really clear, Would you please explain it a bit? Warriorglance(talk to me) 11:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)