Talk: Hudson's

Maybe add a section about the dispute between Hudson's and MC5 resulting in Elektra dropping them from their label? --{moxanot}

Both the Marshall Fields and this article claim their flagship stores were/are the second-largest in the country, next to Macy's. Perhaps both claims were true at one point in time, but this should be clarified. --Rehcsif 12:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

:The book On Target {{ISBN|0-471-66729-3}} states that this was once the nation's tallest department store, with 25 stories. Dunno what "second-largest" means, is it in terms of height? sq. ft? ... Tuxide 04:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

::After looking into it further, I believe the book On Target cites from this article from the [http://info.detnews.com/history/story/index.cfm?id=29&category=business Detroit News]. The article says that it was the world's tallest department store in 1961. Tuxide 05:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Well, it seems that this entry already cites from the Detroit News article that I just pointed out, go figure. I strongly encourage the use of <ref> and <references/> as described in WP:FN. Tuxide 05:58, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

:I have no idea what the article intends, but to me "largest" would mean square feet. "Tallest" makes interesting trivia, but doesn't really convey the scale of something (e.g. Water Tower Place in Chicago is much taller than the Mall of America in Minneapolis, but the latter is much bigger). --Rehcsif 15:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

::[http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqLocId=7&reqItemId=20030225133807] says it was the second largest next to Macy's in square footage. It doesn't say when, though. Tuxide 19:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

:::...perhaps while it was still standing it was? That would make lots of sense, if you implode the building then the end result will probably no longer be the second largest, and it would also make the smaller buildings increase in this ranking. The [http://chicago.urban-history.org/ven/dss/fields.shtml article that Marshall Fields cites from] says "With approximately two million square feet of floor space, the building is the second-largest department store in the United States...". It was written this year, but not in the tone that can be easily interpreted as meaning it is the second largest in square footage. It does mention sources that itself cites from, so the Marshall Fields entry should be citing from the one that says that it is second largest instead of this one. Tuxide 20:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

::::That makes sense. I changed the text to reflect this. Edit at will... --Rehcsif 21:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

This article would be easier to verify if it made use of the ref extension after statements. See Target Corporation for a good example of one that does. I had tagged it as {{tl|unreferenced}} earlier merely because I was going through a list of articles within WikiProject Retailing's scope and this article looked like it needed work. If you're knowledgeable about department stores such as this one, then you should consider joining the WikiProject. Tuxide 04:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Who deleted the listing for the downtown Saginaw store? I know that there was one downtown before the Fashion Square store opened. I have since re-added the listing. TenPoundHammer 19:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

This is the second time that I've had to re-add the listing for Downtown Saginaw's Hudson's. Whoever's removing it, please stop. Thank you. TenPoundHammer 23:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

The Fashion Square Mall Hudson's was the only Hudson's Department Store in Saginaw County, unless you are confusing the Hudson's Car Dealership with the department store? The only department Stores in downtown Saginaw was: Heavenriches, Sears, J. C. Penny's, Weichmann's, Sietners, and Morley Brothers.

I would like to know if anyone has any information on how many sales floors Hudson's had. I can only remember two Rainbow bargain basement floors and 15 sales floors if you counted the Riverview Restaurant on the 15th floor? I remember the 12th was toys (Santa's Village at Christmas), and the 13th was organs and pianos.

JButera jbutera 03:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Can we please remove the MSA's? It's really confusing for adding locations to the list - it's a real hassle to have to look up what MSA a town is in. TenPoundHammer 03:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I removed the MSA's from the list. They're really not needed, and they just add excess kilobytes to an article. And like I said, they're confusing as hell. TenPoundHammer 02:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The stores were'nt renamed Macy's, Inc. converted them to Macy's coverting and rebranding are'nt the same thing Matthew Cantrell (talk) 20:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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Here are some sources:

• Moran, Darcie (December 2, 2020) [https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/12/02/joseph-l-hudson-jr-dead-89/3803673001/ Businessman, philanthropist Joseph L. Hudson Jr. dies at 89] Detroit Free Press
• [https://detroithistorical.org/about-us/detroit-67-project/tribute-joseph-l-hudson-jr A TRIBUTE TO JOSEPH L. HUDSON, JR.] Detroit Historical Society
• [https://www.pbs.org/video/detroit-67-oral-history-project-joseph-l-hudson-jr-01ybqw/ Oral History Project: Joseph L. Hudson, Jr.] AMERICAN BLACK JOURNAL Detroit 67 Oral History Project: Clip: Season 45 Episode 44 | 1m 54s PBS
• [https://findingaids.lib.umich.edu/catalog/umich-bhl-85215 Joseph L. Hudson Papers, 1967-1983 (majority within 1967-1969)] University of Michigan.
• Bouffard, Karen (December 20, 2020) [https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2020/12/02/joseph-l-hudson-jr-obit/3803670001/ Joseph L. Hudson, Jr., store CEO and philanthropist devoted to Detroit, dies at 89] The Detroit News
• There are other sources. Someone should write this. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)