Talk: Taj Mahal
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Islam Info Box
The Taj Mahal has a mosque on its grounds, has Quranic scripture on its walls, and is a tomb for Muslim royalty. As such, especially the first point, I believe the info box should list its affiliation as Islam or Sunni Islam, and the info box should be made green. Thoughts on this?
The Arcthitect listed as "Ahmad Lahori" is Pseudo-History
they keep adding his name back up based on bad history, theres a pretty in-depth refutation i wrote using the best living academic on that topic ebba koch as my source.
you can read it in full here Talk:Ustad Ahmad Lahori with every claim sourced with page numbers.
no record credits or corroborates Ahmad Lahori however they do credit other names with the Taj, the only uncorroborated claim comes about his role by his own son and has as much validity as their contemporary Sebastian Manrique, who saw the Taj under construction in 1640-41, and declared that an Italian goldsmith named 'Geronimo Veroneo' had prepared the design.
please see the talk page titled "Myths about ustad ahmad lahori's role as the chief architect of shahjahan" at Talk:Ustad Ahmad Lahori and can we get this fixed? Goshua55 (talk) 13:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:also @Benison
:why did you strike me for " unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia" when koch is the strongest academic authority alive on this issue and i used her as my source? Goshua55 (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::@Benison Goshua55 (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Goshua55, Hi. As I have left the message in your talk page along with SKAG123 and Ponyo, that you have been adding content without providing any reliable source supporting your claim. Please provide multiple independent and reliable sources to prove your claim. Furthermore, any such change must be discussed in this talk page and a consensus must be reached before adding it onto the page. Until then, kindly refrain from adding the same thing over and over as it will constitute as disruptive editing.
If you have any doubts, you are more than welcome to ask it at Teahouse, which is the perfect place to start with these clashes. Thank you and happy editing. — — Benison (Beni · talk) 16:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::::they left messages for my editing this same contested topic on ahmad lahori and asked me to be patient and talk it out first, which now i have been doing and i have also raised a dispute.
::::anyways my edit was with a solid source, the best possible available on that topic.
::::and thank you for the teahouse suggestion. Goshua55 (talk) 18:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Size of the garden
Good morning. The article states: „The complex is set around a large 300 m2 (3,200 sq ft) charbagh or Mughal garden.“ It‘s hard to believe that the garden is that small. Nikkis (talk) 09:04, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{strike|Can you prove it with any reliable source? (wp:rs)?}} — Cerium4B—Talk? • 09:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
:Having been there, it is surely much larger than that. We also say "The tomb is the centrepiece of a 17-hectare (42-acre) complex, which includes a mosque and a guest house" - apart from the buildings, all the rest inside the walled compound is garden. Johnbod (talk) 12:01, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
::For many years (back to 2019 at least) the article said "The complex is set around a large 300-metre (980 ft) square charbagh or Mughal garden", which is even more nonsensical. I have removed the numbers completely, until we get a referenced figure. Johnbod (talk) 12:11, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Back in 2005 we said "Measuring 1000 ft × 1000 ft (300 m × 300 m), the garden has ...". I think the maths has challenged some editors here; 300 m × 300 m is 9,000 m2, is it not? And the metres-feet conversion is very rough. Johnbod (talk) 12:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
::::Erm - sorry Johnbod but 300 x 300 = 90,000, not 9,000. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::Oh, well, there you go - not 300 anyway. I suppose areas around the edges, especially near the entrance, might not be counted as "garden", so I won't attempt to reconcile the "17-hectare (42-acre)" with this. Johnbod (talk) 12:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Cost
The article states "The Taj Mahal complex is believed to have been completed in its entirety in 1653 at a cost estimated at the time to be around ₹5 million, which in 2023 would be approximately ₹35 billion (US$77.8 million)."
Please change the above incorrect info with the following correct info ----->
"The Taj Mahal complex is believed to have been completed in its entirety in 1653 at a cost estimated at the time to be around 32 million rupees, which in 2015 would be approximately 52.8 billion rupees (U.S. $827 million)."
Source: https://agra.nic.in/tourist-place/the-taj-mahal/ ID1249 (talk) 01:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
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:Thanks for noticing — Cerium4B—Talk? • 09:32, 26 February 2025 (UTC)