Talk:satellite navigation device
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This page should be renamed Satellite navigation device or most of the content transfered to Satellite navigation device and a redirect as most of the content, when edited to non specific Sat Nav systems, would be a better home for this information, particularly as Glonass, Galileo and other systems are of increasing importance.Theo Pardilla (talk) 10:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 17:15, 3 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)
GPS navigation device → {{no redirect|GPS navigation system}} – It is the common name as used by retail. [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22GPS+navigation+system%22&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1#q=%22GPS+navigation+device%22&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=1&tbm=bks&ei=KLJiUM-WCoaCyAGu3oGIAw&start=110&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=9225591d206fad83&biw=1280&bih=899], [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22GPS+navigation+system%22&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1#q=%22GPS+navigation+system%22&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=1&tbm=bks&ei=ErJiULSZMOiEygGNr4CIBg&start=510&sa=N&fp=1&biw=1280&bih=899&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&cad=b&sei=M7JiUKTlJYLdyAHy6IGwAQ] [http://reviews.cnet.com/best-gps/]. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 07:47, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
:Without trying to be scientific, GPS receiver strkes me as more commonplace [http://www.google.com/search?q=gps+receiver&aq=0&oq=gps+recei&sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8] [http://www8.garmin.com/aboutGPS/] and do many people like to say by implication ".... System System" anyway? Of course in some future decade alternative navsat systems will become competitive and important, and we'll need a neutral name. No need to rush that one. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:09, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
::I believe receiver refers to the component of the system and sometimes by extension, the system. Also you should know Google is about as accurate as a random number generator. See WP:SET. Google News shows at least ten major news sites from the past week using "GPS navigation system" and just one for "GPS receiver". I considered the possible redundancy of "system" but I decided GPS is being used as a kind of orphan initialism. Common names don't necessarily have to logical anyway. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 10:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, as in [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405680,00.asp Apple Moves to Kill GPS Devices] the receiver is most often called "device" if it's in its own little box that you hold in your hand, "system" if it's built into a car, airplane or other vehicle, and "receiver" if built into another hand held device, usually a mobile phone but also my new Nikon AW-100 camera. Also "receiver" if the GPS chipset manufacturer is looking for mobile phone manufacturers to buy their product. Units uilt into a vehicle are by far the most expensive per unit, and apparently only slowly losing ground in the car-based submarket while the boat and airplane sectors remain steady. Separate box is rapidly losing out to smartphones, which in any case have for a couple years been the majority of GPS users and, umm, receivers. So, unless there's a reason to put the class market (trucks & planes) above the mass, I figure we should go with the mass. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:22, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. Narrowly, a GPS receiver tells me my position (a modern sextant and clock). GPS navigation involves route planning and steering with the aid of a GPS receiver (maps/charts). Choosing between the labels of "device" and "system" isn't compelling. My sense is the term "GPS" now refers to the device/system/app that tells me to turn left in 50 meters. I'd leave the article where it is. Glrx (talk) 19:53, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose - This article is about a device that uses the GPS ("Global Positioning System") to navigate. Renaming would then make it "GPS navigation system": "Global Positioning System navigation system". In the dictionary under redundant it states see redundant.--ZooFamily (talk) 22:21, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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Merger proposal
I propose that Personal navigation assistant be merged into this article, GPS navigation device. The content in the PNA article is duplicated in, or is a subset of, GPS navigation device. The merged article is of a reasonable size and will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. There has not been much activity in PNA for a while, it all goes into developing GND. Ex nihil (talk) 02:43, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
:I support merging. However, neither title (Personal navigation assistant and GPS navigation device) is optimal. The articles should be merged under a title that refers to satellite navigation system receivers in general, such as “{GNSS|satellite navigation} {receiver|user device}”, because that is the common topic. Given the current content of the merge candidates, there is no point in limiting the title to GPS only, or only personal navigation devices (excluding those in planes, missiles and a lot more applications). Note that some receivers are not intended as navigation devices but instead as time and frequency references. In the future, if the article (after the merge) is much more detailed than it is now, it may make sense to split that article into more specific articles, such as “GNSS receivers for aviation”, “GNSS-corrected time and frequency reference devices” and “Multi-GNSS user device” but given the current lack of detail, a generic title is more appropriate. Regards. Mario Castelán Castro (talk) 23:45, 2 August 2015 (UTC).
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Daniels's peer review
It was my pleasure of reading this article. I now understand how the GPS fist came and when it was integrated with cars and phones. Very informative and good choice of article. However; the article still needs few changes down listed at the bottom. If you can find these missing parts your article should be good to go. Thanks for your understanding!
- Citation and clarification needed for Sensitivity context on the second line.
- Citation needed under Sensitivity context bottle line.
- Source needed at the Sequential Receivers context.
- Citation needed at the Mishaps context.
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Correct naming
Now that Glonass is working quite reliably, and Beidou and Galileo (satellite navigation) peeping on the horizon, isn't it time to make this article less GPS-specific? My vote is for renaming it to "GNSS navigation device". Jan olieslagers (talk) 10:33, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Clarification needed
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