Template:Did you know nominations/Ethiopia–Tigray peace agreement

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:The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Ineligible as the article has already been featured on the main page at ITN in November; there is clearly no consensus at WT:DYK for any exception to so recent an appearance

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... that the government of Ethiopia and the TPLF reached a peace agreement to cease one of the biggest contemporary armed conflicts? Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/03/africa/ethiopia-civil-war-truce-explainer-intl/index.html , https://web.archive.org/web/20221016230001/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63275598
ALT1: ... that a peace treaty has been signed to end the Tigray War, which led to the displacement of approximately 574,000 people and reportedly killed an estimated 100,000? Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/03/africa/ethiopia-civil-war-truce-explainer-intl/index.html , https://web.archive.org/web/20221016230001/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63275598
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Comment: Created per DYK suggestion @ User talk:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace#Ethiopia–TPLF peace agreement by User:Boud as co ordination for User:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace which covers peace process related articles. My personal perception is reaction section in the article be transformed into encyclopedic prose. Bookku (talk) 06:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Created by XTheBedrockX (talk). Nominated by Bookku (talk) at 06:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC).

Just for the record, the 574,000 displaced / 100,000 dead numbers are just for the war from August 2022–onward. The death toll for the whole war is actually closer to either 385,000–600,000 or 700,000–800,000, depending on which estimate you look at, and displacement is closer to 2.5–2.75 million. XTheBedrockX (talk)
: I agree. ALT1 would be misleading - grossly underestimating the scale of the war. I've put ALT2 below and put the info in the background section. Boud (talk) 17:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
There were some grammatical/typographical errors in the hooks. I have fixed these. – dudhhr^talk _contribs (he/they) 14:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that the government of Ethiopia and the TPLF reached a peace agreement to cease the Tigray War that by October 2022 had killed half a million people? Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/03/africa/ethiopia-civil-war-truce-explainer-intl/index.html; https://web.archive.org/web/20221016230001/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63275598; https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-surge-of-dehumanizing-hate-speech-points-to-mounting-risk-of-mass (archive: https://archive.today/VSOUk)
:ALT2 aims to avoid some problems in the original proposal: we're not supposed to give a somewhat surprising link; and we don't have sources in the article establishing that the Tigray War is one of the "biggest" current conflicts (there was an editing-energy-wasting debate for the lead of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine in the first few days(?) about whether or not it was "the biggest" European war since epoch X; the biggest problem was ambiguity in the sources in stating what quantity determines "biggest"), and we probably don't want to waste energy trying to find sources for the "biggest" claim, and "contemporary" could mean either "now" or XXIst century or "last 50 years". ALT2 aims to avoid the problems of ALT1, in which the numbers refer to post-August-2022 displacements and deaths, rather than overall Tigray War counts. "Half a million" is a fair round summary for 385,000–600,000 (Jan Nyssen et al, interviewed by The Globe and Mail) and a conservative lower bound for "700,000–800,000" ({{u|XTheBedrockX}} above; I didn't search for a source). Boud (talk) 17:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC){{pb}}700 to 800,000 is in https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63291747 by a not-currently-Wikipedia-notable "analyst" - Abdurahman Sayed. Boud (talk) 17:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

:::I do appreciate and agree with User:Boud's suggestion. Bookku (talk) 10:07, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

16px The article is currently on Wikipedia's main page as a bolded link in the ITN section. Normally I'd quickfail this now, but as the circumstances of that requirement are under discussion at the moment, I'm marking the article with a violet tick in the meantime pending the results of that discussion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:07, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
16px Although the discussion is ongoing, I don't think there will be consensus for bolded links on ITN running on DYK without some time having passed (at least a few months). As such I don't think this article can run on DYK at this time. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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