Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Guernsey

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• ... that that the Flag of Guernsey (pictured) was created in 1985 because Guernsey were being confused with England as they both used the St George's Cross prior?

:* ALT1:... that that the Flag of Guernsey (pictured) was based on a banner used by Duke William the Bastard of Normandy during the Battle of Hastings?

:* Reviewed: Helen Freeman (basketball)

:* Comment: For 14 October (950th anniversary of the Battle of Hastings)

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 11:51, 27 September 2016 (UTC).

:*16px Article is newly expanded - I prefer the Alt1 based on the connection to 14 October. Directly cited to an online hook; article is otherwise fully cited. Good to be saved for the 14th. Miyagawa (talk) 12:54, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

:Comment Image is public domain. Free of close paraphrasing or copy vio. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Flag+of+Guernsey&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Earwig] is clear. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:56, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

• 16px The original review does not mention a copyvio check, which is a shame because there's a sentence in the lead lifted from the BBC 2004 article about the flag (FN5): {{tq|It was designed by the Guernsey Flag Investigation Committee chaired by the then Deputy Bailiff Graham Dorey and first flew in the island on 15th February, 1985.}} A neutrality check, also omitted, should also be done. Finally, I've struck the original hook because it's confusingly phrased and because there's no point in saving the nomination for October 14 for that hook because it doesn't mention the Battle of Hastings. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:19, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
• Thank you {{ping|BlueMoonset}}. I do admit I had overlooked that when I did the expansion, slightly concerning that that was an unaltered part of the original article before I expanded it. I have reworded it so would you or {{ping|Miyagawa}} or 7&6=thirteen be able to restore the green tick? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:39, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
• Certainly not without someone doing a neutrality check, The C of E. And since 7&6=thirteen commented that there wasn't any copyvio prior to my post, perhaps it would be best to wait on Miyagawa or a new reviewer. There's still plenty of time before October 14. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:51, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

:Comment I personally did a massive copy edit/rewrite of the whole article. I would say that the close paraphrasing issue is a thing of the past. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&oldid=742054824&action=compare&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fguernsey%2Fcontent%2Farticles%2F2004%2F07%2F21%2Fguernsey_flag_feature.shtml Earwig]. Someone else will have to check. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:13, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

:Comment Not wanting to be That Guy, but what is a weasel word like "purportedly" doing being proposed for the Main Page? Thanks to the Bayeux Tapestry, we know [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Bayeux_Tapestry_scene55_Eustach.jpg exactly what William's banner at the Battle of Hastings looked like]. (Yes, the Tapestry was made 20 years after the event, but the makers can be assumed to know what their own flag looked like.) ‑ Iridescent 16:18, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Miyagawa are we good to go? N.B. hook has been changed. The C of E do you agree with the change? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:28, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

::Yes I agree. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

:::Miyagawa If we are good to go we need a tick? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:50, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

::::16px Sorry, was without internet for the past week. Happy to restore the tick based on the additional checks conducted above. Miyagawa (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

:::::Miyagawa, did you yourself conduct close paraphrasing and neutrality checks? If not, then you should not be giving this a tick since no one independent has done them, and they need to be done. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:12, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

::::::FWIW, other than doing a major rewrite (for which I have not been credited in the DYK) (and posting [https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Flag+of+Guernsey&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Earwig]'s result) I have no interest in or connection with this article or the DYK. But if that isn't good enough... than Miyagawa can confirm it himself. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:35, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

:::::::16px Confirmed. Spot checks are clear. No copyvios detected nor neutrality issues seen. Miyagawa (talk) 11:10, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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