Template:Did you know nominations/Washington Monument (Philadelphia)

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 21:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) was unveiled at its dedication in 1897 by the president of the United States?

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• Source: [https://archive.org/details/ceremoniesattend00soci/page/9/mode/1up The monument was unveiled by His Excellency William McKinley, the President of the United States.]}}
• ALT1: ... that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) was moved in 1926 from a park to a traffic circle? Source: [https://pasocietyofthecincinnati.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/V-50-2-Spring-2014.pdf#page=15 By October 1926, the monument had been completely reassembled in the newly created Eakins Oval]
• ALT2: ... that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) features an equestrian statue and fountains guarded by bear, bison, elk, and moose? Source: [https://archive.org/details/washingtonmonume00fair/page/8/ These fountains are guarded on either side by native animals as the Moose, Elk, Bison and Bear]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Geoffrey Cuming

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Zeete (talk) 20:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC).

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|hookinterest = My favorite is the last one, but while I don't think it's so uninteresting to reject I don't find it that engaging. How do you feel about using something like "...that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) includes a man killing an alligator with a trident?" ? The alligator + trident immediately stood out to me while reading the article, though I'm not sure if "killing" is appropriate since you've got "having killed" and this may need to be rephrased. If you hate this hook or possible variants I'm willing to approve ALT2 as is or review some other ideas.

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• {{ping|Rusalkii}} Thanks for your review. How about:
• ALT3: ... that the base of Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) includes a man holding a trident, having killed an alligator? Source: [https://archive.org/details/washingtonmonume00fair/page/9/ holding in his hand a trident or harpoon, and a dead alligator shows that he too has been successful in the hunt.]

::Thanks, Zeete (talk) 18:56, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

::: 16px Works for me. Will need another reviewer to approve the hook, since I suggested it. Rusalkii (talk) 19:17, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

::::{{yo|Rusalkii}} Hook needs an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 05:54, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::{{ping|Launchballer}} Reference source added. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 10:13, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::16px I checked the article for plagiarism concerns and found nothing beyond proper nouns which are not violations. ALT0 and ALT1 are both somewhat interesting, mentioned and cited in the article, and verified by the sources. ALT2 and ALT3 are more interesting hooks. For ALT2, a source is needed directly at the end of each sentence to support each animal in the hook, as per WP:DYKHFC. The wording of ALT3 is hard to verify, since the prose mentions "The bottom level" and "The Mississippi River fountain", whereas the hook mentions "the base of". The dissimilarity of words is likely to be challenged. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:59, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::{{ping|Flibirigit}} Thanks for your review. I've added references for ALT2 and proposed ALT3a. What do you think?

:::::::* ALT3a: ... that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) includes a man holding a trident, having killed an alligator?

:::::::Thanks, Zeete (talk) 10:58, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::::16px Aprroving ALT0, ALT1, ALT2, ALT3a. ALT2 is now properly cited and verfied. The wording in ALT3a is an improvement, the hook is now verified. I have struck ALT3 accordingly. I see no other concerns. Ready for DYK. Flibirigit (talk) 12:35, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::{{ping|Flibirigit}} Thanks! Zeete (talk) 12:39, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

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