Template talk:Cite mailing list/Archive 1

We have a consensus that access dates for online copies of offline sources, while helpful as a comment in the source, should be hidden from the reader. While mailing lists are online sources posts have an "official" post date after which they typically don't change. Therefore, I believe the updated policy applies here as well. Could somebody who is competent to adapt the citation templates please do so? The idea is to keep the access date as a template parameter but remove the code that displays it. Thanks, --EnOreg (talk) 09:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Object. In that conversation, there was mention of the value of the date for when the content may change. There was also mention of content that was likely to become unavailable. I think mailing list content is more likely to be ephemeral than physical content, so do not see any consensus to remove the parameter from this template at this time. --Karnesky (talk) 13:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

::Okay, let's have this discussion for newsgroups and mailing lists here. --EnOreg (talk) 13:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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Please replace the template with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Cite_mailing_list/sandbox&oldid=257954703 Sandbox]. The output doesn't change (see below), but COinS metadata is added, and consistency with other citation templates is future-proofed. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 19:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

• {{cite mailing list | url = http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/debian-announce-1996/msg00021.html | title = Debian Linux Distribution Release 1.1 Now Available | mailinglist = debian-announce | date = 1996-06-17 | last = Perens |first = Bruce |authorlink=Bruce Perens}}
• {{cite mailing list/sandbox | url = http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/debian-announce-1996/msg00021.html | title = Debian Linux Distribution Release 1.1 Now Available | mailinglist = debian-announce | date = 1996-06-17 | last = Perens |first = Bruce |authorlink=Bruce Perens}}

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Please replace

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with

{{Citation/core

at first line. The former is not protected. --fryed-peach (talk) 17:41, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:{{Done}} The former was actually protected due to cascade protection of this template. Ruslik (talk) 19:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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A recent update to Template:Citation/core has made an improvement possible in the way that archive details are handled; please replace Template:Cite mailing list with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Cite_mailing_list/sandbox&oldid=269325189 current sandbox], removing the sandbox notice.

The improvements are: better error handling (e.g. mark when archivedate specified but archiveurl blank); correction of punctuation and capitalisation; and centralising functionality to minimise future template drift. No change in appearance will be observed (except if 'Archived on' comes after a comma, in which case it will no longer be incorrectly capitalised). Examples are available at Template:Citation/testcases/archive (they will affect cite mailing list in the same way as they do Citation). Thanks, Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 13:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:{{done}} Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 01:22, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I am having trouble with this template. The url does not appear to be linked to the title. That is, I am not getting a clickable link as shown in the example - when using this template. Article in question is Lars Pearson. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -      Hydroxonium (talk) 05:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

:I figured out the problem. If the "archiveurl" and "archivedate" paramaters are included, but left blank, the link won't appear. -      Hydroxonium (talk) 05:10, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

• Update documentation to include undocumented parameters.
• Fix IncludedWorkURL = archiveurl
• Add OCLC et. al.

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:05, 10 September 2011 (UTC)