User:DGG/Notability 2012

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The End of '''Notability'''

:I. The end (purpose) of notability

:II. The end (finish) of notability

=== The end purpose of notability ===

:: to give users the confidence that we are an encyclopedia,

:::by being similar to familiar encyclopedias,

:::with respect to not including the culturally trivial subjects

:::and by not including promotionalism or directory information

:::::(assuming that articles on non-notable subjects are overwhelmingly likely to be promotion)

=The formal definitions (WP:N)=

Article topics must be notable, or "worthy of notice".'

Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things like fame, importance, or popularity

A topic is presumed to merit an article if it meets the general notability guideline below, and is not excluded under "What Wikipedia is not"

==The General Notability Guideline [[WP:GNG]]==

'''If a topic has received

:significant coverage

:in reliable sources that are

:independent of the subject,

it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria.'''

"Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail ...more than a trivial mention

"Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the WP:reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.

"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject or its creator. For example, self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, the subject's website, autobiographies, and press releases are not independent.

"Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources establishes a presumption, not a guarantee, that a subject is suitable for inclusion. Editors may reach a consensus that although a topic meets this criterion, it is not appropriate for a stand-alone article. For example, it may violate What Wikipedia is not, for example, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.

==Special Notability Gidelines==

A topic is also presumed notable if it meets a subject-specific guideline:

  • Academics
  • Astronomical objects
  • Books
  • Events
  • Films
  • Music
  • Numbers
  • Organizations & companies
  • People
  • Sports and athletes

=The Real Guideline=

SOMETHING IS NOTABLE IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE IT

The termination of notability

=Why=

  • imprecision of the guidelines
  • inconsistency of the guidelines
  • unreality of the guidelines
  • variable significance of the sourcing requirement

:::topics with a superabundance of sources

:::topics with insufficient conventional sources

=Replacements =

==Wikipedia inclusion==

Make decisions not on the basis of whether something is worth an article, but on what extent the coverage of something should have, from the spectrum of a mention in a list, a sentence, a paragraph, a sub-article, a full article, a group of related articles.

====Wikpedia Two====

Wikipedia Two (Wikipedia Supplement)

  • for local, more detailed, and less consequential things;
  • for people or institutions having just a mention in Wikipedia having fuller coverage in WikipediaTwo.

::satisfy the inclusionists, permitting coverage of a wide range of disputable subjects,

::satisfy the deletionists, keeping those disputable articles out of the main Wikipedia.

== Different from Wikipedia==

Not requiring notability

==Different from Wikia==

Keeping our key values

  • Verifiability
  • No Original Research
  • NPOV

==Different from Local Wikis==

Not just "local" people, places, & things.