User:Nathan/BLPN

Questions about BLP/N

1) Does the current noticeboard work well for addressing problems brought to the board for attention?

2) If not, is this because of

:(a) Difficulty intrinsic to addressing often significant content problems

:(b) Problems related to the way reports are addressed at the board

:(b) Both

3) If the way reports to the board are responded to is a problem, independent of the difficulty of the underlying issues, why? Is the noticeboard in the ideal format, and issues of response are primarily a problem relating to community inattention?

4) Would the system of reporting problems to BLP/N, seeking greater attention and assistance resolving these problems via the board, and coordinating this effort work better if the board had a more efficient organization?

Organizational thoughts

The way the board functions right now isn't ideal. It runs the same way as incident reports do at AN/I, but with far less attention. Because AN/I has so many eyeballs, each reported problem with any merit has a good chance of getting attention from people watching the page. BLP/N doesn't have nearly as many editors patrolling it, and faces some challenges that separate it from AN/I.

Like most noticeboards, the sections are archived automatically by a bot. This gives each section a finite number of days (let's say 7) to get the attention requested by the poster. Since nearly all reports to the noticeboard concern a specific article, respondents may: comment on the noticeboard thread, edit the article, comment on the article talkpage, or all three. A report with no response on the noticeboard may be completely handled or not handled at all, and nothing identifies the difference. It happens, then, that reports of a problem article will appear on the noticeboard, scroll up to the top of the table of contents without any attention or action, and get archived off the page with no improvement.

I believe that the ideal method for reporting, discussing and resolving BLP problems to a noticeboard includes the following qualities:

  • A respondent can quickly scan the page to see outstanding reports
  • Reports are grouped by type and status (in progress, resolved, oustanding)
  • New reports building on a history of prior reports automatically include reference to that history
  • Activity towards resolving a problem can be noted automatically in the report
  • Problems don't leave the page until they have been resolved or dismissed

This type of efficient board design is already implemented on Wikipedia, on bot-assisted noticeboards like WP:AN3, AIV and SPI. Below is an example of what this sort of thing might look like applied to BLP/N, and how it might function with bot reports and etc.

SPI and BLP/N both currently make use of a bot to track and manages changes and issue alerts to an IRC channel. The BLP/N bot is currently limited to reporting edits to the page, but conceivably could be adapted to manage the tasks suggested below and also alert editors in the IRC channel to new reports, relevant changes to articles currently reported to the board, archive and maintain resolved reports, etc.

Examples

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==[[Jane Doe]]==

;Reported by Nathan at 1155 UTC

;Report type: Unsourced negative claims in live article

This article says that Jane Doe, a famous movie actress, worked in Las Vegas as a prostitute and was addicted to crack cocaine before her big-screen debut in "My Little Dog Sally: An International Incident." Many other claims, negative and otherwise, are of dubious plausibility and remain in the article. I'm leaving for a weeklong junket in Phuket, I've just taken my lorazepam for the flight, and I don't have the time or the brainpower to fix this right now.

;Bot notes:

  • Article has been edited by administrators (0) times since report to BLP/N
  • No regular BLP/N respondents have not edited this page
  • Article has not been protected, moved or deleted as of 12:00 UTC

;Discussion:

  • I'll take a look at this and see what I can do. -User:Example

:* These claims are all true! Nothing in this article is false or violates the policy, just because all the information is negative and sourced to blogs doesn't mean Wikipedia should ignore the truth! -User:Example2

  • {{Note}}: I plan to delete this page momentarily, recreate it as a stub and protect it for 1 week. -User:Example-admin

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! style="background-color: #B4EEB4;" | Peter Doe

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==[[Peter Doe]]==

;Reported by Nathan

;Report type: Ongoing content dispute on a BLP

User:ExampleA keeps inserting the real name of Peter Doe into the article. Doe is a male porn star, and no reliable sources have reported his real name. Nevertheless, ExampleA is edit-warring against consensus to put the real name on the talkpage and in the article, and even moved the article last week (which an admin reverted and move-protected against happening again). He's using an industry blog as his source. Shouldn't he be blocked for this transgression? -User:ExampleB

;Bot notes:

  • Article has been edited by administrators (0) times since report to BLP/N
  • No regular BLP/N respondents have edited this page
  • ''Article has been move protected (6 days ago).

;Discussion:

No information should be included in a BLP without referencing it to a reliable source. -User:ExampleC

:www.avn.com/news isn't an "industry blog" - it's the primary news source for the pornography industry. Doe's real name was reported because he was linked to the former governor of Illinois, and there is no reason this information should be left out of his article. -User:ExampleD

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=Eyeballs only=

  • {{la|Bubba Doe}} added by Nathan T (formerly Avruch) 21:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  • {{la|Doris Doe}} added by Nathan T (formerly Avruch) 21:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  • {{la|Eugene Doe}} added by Nathan T (formerly Avruch) 21:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)