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File:Oskar Dirlewanger(1944).jpg

The photo on the right is Dirlewanger in Slovakia , 1944. This photo was used in 3 books cover.

-The Defeat of the Damned: The Destruction of the Dirlewanger Brigade at the Battle of Ipolysag, December 1944 ( Douglas E Nash ) 2023

-The Cruel Hunters: SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger Hitler's Most Notorious Anti-Partisan Unit ( French L. Maclean ) 1998

-Oskar Dirlewanger: SS-Sonderkommando Dirlewanger ( Soraya Kuklińska ) 2022

The owner of the photo is French Maclean. This photo was taken shortly Dirlewanger receive his new medal , the Slovakian War Victory Cross. His collar tab is also has been change . unlike the one in his more famous photo in august 1944.

Riku actually found the picture in 2022 while scrolling down using bing. He screenshot it but forget to take the site's url.

I tried to search for the site again but it's gone. Probably has been deleted after Nash published his book.

File:Kurt Weisse.jpg

Next, SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Kurt Weisse. One of my favorite member of the Einheit. He was nicknamed the "Devil" by his own men due to his brutal behavior. He had killed one of his men in 1943 using a batton. This photo was actually an edit of two photo . one a very low resolution photo and one a book cover from an old ss book . i use an ai to remove the text on the photo and merge it with Weisse's face , after adjusting the photo , i obtained this>

I recently upload a full photo of him and i was very surprise that he is actually very tall. Probably as tall as Dirlewanger .There's one photo of him that i havent touch yet . A photo of him before the war. Like in SA uniform or something , but its not black uniform.

I dont know if what i did to obtained this photo is against the rules or something . But i hate it when its just low resolution pic. Edit: I had found a better photo of Weisse and it's very high resolution.

File:Battalion Narwa.jpg

Third photo , This photo is extremely rare. It showned troops of the 2nd regiment in East Prussia. The Hauptsturmfuhrer in the front , middle is SS-Haupsturmfuhrer Ewald Ehlers.

His death written in Wiki was by hanging by his own troops , but i recently read Nash's books and i think, i should rewrite the wiki part of him because it's kind of a disrespect to him? Yes , i know the whole brigade is bunch of criminal and such but i think its better to write the actual factor for his death where it's less kind of a "bad ending" for him

Also , this photo was uploaded by numerous user in the internet, but not in wikicommon , so yea. the owner is still unknown

4th photo , No. i dont have the guts to post it. its a photo of Dirlewanger in 1934. not in civilian attire but topless. You can see the photo in Axis Forum Photo , Riku found the pic in twitter and ask the AHF about it's origins. I actually kind of overthink about the photo.

is that what his victim saw of him? especially those two underage girl who are very unlucky to be Dirlewanger's victim.

Also i dont want to upload that photo because Mr.Nash are the one who send the whole photo to Riku. What i mean by the whole photo is... its just the whole paper , not the photo picture depicting dirlewanger;s overall body. Nah.

I wish I still have the access to any sources about Dirlewanger's unit. I miss reading those books. Douglas's book is one of the great source about Dirlewanger. It's very detailed. I didn't read it to the end though. Especially about the part where they fought against the Soviet in Ipolysag. Slovakia-Hungary border in December 1944. That's the real Dirlewanger Brigade.

The unit was destroyed after that battle. I don't know where the designation "SS-Sonderbrigade" came from. I thought it was the 2.SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger.

I'm still lack of knowledge about Dirlewanger's regiment movement in Warsaw during the surpression. From one source , it is said that Dirlewanger return to the regiment in 7th August and take command where he unite the two kampfgruppe. but according to Mr Nash, Dirlewanger returned on 8 August.

As written in the Axis History Forum in the topic of "Hauptmann der Polizei Herbert Meyer of the Dirlewanger Regiment" on 08 Feb 2022, 21:07, Mr Nash said :

I repeat, there was no Dirlewanger until 8 August. Serious all-day fights only for Michler's Palace. Meyer's large losses on 8 August were reported to Dirlewanger by only 40 soldiers out of 365. Apparently, he was crying (PTSD) in front of Dirlewanger.

From August 7, Steinhauer (II bataillon) made his way back to the Bruhl and Saxon Palace. The Home Army forces on their route strike weak and poorly armed. Elite Kedyw fought in the cemetery against Reck and Schmidt forces.

Completely also came from the Dachau disciplinary camp for SS soldier and the Wehrmacht prisoners Glatz, Anklam, Torgau, etc. I even saw information about Kriegsmarine's sailor directed to Dirlewanger for unauthorized extension of his pass in Lorient.

I'm pretty much are very confused. It must be hard for Meyer to accept that out of 365 men , only 40 of them survive the assault on Wola. No wonder ptsd went up to him. Meyet aren't that kind of hardened SS officer like Weisse. He wasn't an SS officer but a SchuPo.

Also I had found a few image of Dirlewanger's commanding officer such as Herbert Meyer, Steinhauer and idk maybe just them. I would upload their image after gather the info each of it.

= 31/01/2025 =

Finally, I had the access to Douglas's book again. I hope I'm be able to read it to the end.

also, I just realised that, other than Douglas's book, I also can use Maclean's. Maclean's book also are rich with info about the Einheit's combat reported. There's also a claim that Dirlewanger would fly in a light recon plane over a russian village.

I also had obtained some rare image of the Einheit's members. very rare. extremely rare.

One of it is Josef Steinhauer image (so handsome omg). and the two other is a Enlisted men,. there's also this image of two officers on horse, but i wont be uploading it since no info about them has been obtained.

But it got to be Dirlewanger's cuz the background of the image is a Slavic forest.

File:Off-Duty Dirlewanger's soldier.png

I know i could just buy rolf-michaelis's book but no. There's must be an alternative to find those photograph.

Hmm, I have till 1 March before the date of borrowing the book expired. Yes , I borrow Douglas Book. Not from a physical Library but from an Online Library.

For writing and adding any info in Dirlewanger brigade wiki section, I use Chatgpt to help me wrote down the text. I'm afraid that my usage of words is not suitable.

File:Dirlewanger soldier.png

On the right, This is one of the rare example of SS-Schutzen that served in Dirlewanger's battalion , he probably had volunteer in early 1943 or 42. Judging by that Collar tab, this image probably are taken after February 1943.

The Sonderkommando designation was changed into Sonderbataillon on November 1942. People should knew that changed. In wiki, it was said that when the unit was under the command of Totenkopfverbande, the unit changed into Sonderbataillon. Incorrect.

= 04/03/2025 =

Hello again Wikitalk.

Recently, I decided to change something in Wiki that involved the Dirlewanger Brigade. I notice that people tend to incorrectly use the unit's designation in incorrect way. Like, for example. Some people love to use "SS-Sturmbrigade" designation. whenever talking about the brigade. but please be noted that the designation only used between October till February 1945.

Yes, It kind of sound "Elite" status. But like what Sir. Nash said, that was for honorific purpose only. Nothing else.

There's also some individual who literally use the designation of "36th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS" while refering to the unit during operation year of 1940-1944. It's fucking annoying tbh.

And there's this one individual who fucking put an image of Gigachad Dirlewanger in the wiki page of Oskar Dirlewanger. Like What the fuck? A war criminal and a convicted rapist is seen as chad? Will you see a person who raped your mother or your sister a chad? What kind of mindset is that? Fucking TNO bastard. And the image wasn't even made by him. Fuck you. I'm well aware that such image is often use as a racist meme among TNO community. OFTEN against Belarussian or Poles.

I'm not hating the whole TNO community though.

= Franz Magill =

• SS-Sturmbannfiihrer Franz Magill was born August 22, 1900 at Kleist near K6slin. He entered the SS April 4, 1933 and had an outstanding record prior to his service in the Sonderkommando. In 1935, while serving as a riding instructor at the SS Leader School at Braunschweig he received a recommendation for promotion from SS-Standartenfiihrer Paul Hausser. Hausser, who later commanded a division, a corps and an army, had this to say:™ Page 97 SS-Untersturmfiihrer Magil has been a soldier for twelve years, is very quiet and reserved, comradely and a good riding teacher. He is especially qualified for promotion. Page 97 From the school he went to command a squadron of cavalry in the SS-Totenkopfverbdnde (Death’s Head unit). In September 1939, Magil was assigned to SS Cavalry Regiment |. There, he commanded the Ist Squadron and led this unit to Posen, Poland. There, his unit enforced the laws of the new German General Government of Poland and also helped capture criminals who had escaped Polish prisons during the attack. He then assumed command of the I1th Squadron at Lublin. On June 14, 1940 Magill assumed command of the 2nd SS-Totenkopf-Reiterstandarte — which later became SS Cavalry Regiment 2. He commanded this unit until April 10, 1941, when he assumed command of the Mounted Detachment of the regiment.** On October 28, 1941 the commander of the SS Cavalry Brigade SS-Standartenfiihrer Hermann Fegelein wrote the following efficiency report on Magill:*° Page 97 of SS-Sturmbannfiihrer Franz M a gi 11, SS-Cavalry Page 98 At least one source states that while Magill was with the unit, the SS Cavalry Brigade conducted Final Solution operations in Russia. From July 29 through August 12, 1941 the brigade conducted operations in the Pripjet marshes area. SS-Standartenfiihrer Hermann Fegelein reported that 14,178 looters, 1001 partisans and 699 Red Army soldiers were executed. On August 2, Magill sent his First and Fourth Companies to Pinsk. A reported eight thousand Jewish males were killed; the women and children were to be driven into the marshes. During the entire Pinsk operation at least eleven thousand Jews were executed.*” Page 98 On November 15, 1941 Magill was reassigned to the Higher SS and Police Leader White Russia staff and from there went to the Sonderkommando. He would serve as acting commander of the Sonderkommando from December 28, 1942 to February 20, 1943. In March 1943, SS-Obergruppenfiihrer Erich yon dem Bach-Zelewski, the commander of all SS anti-partisan forces, recommended Magill for promotion with this endorsement:** Page 99 Justification for promotion to the recommended grade is proven by: the exemplary fulfillment of all tasks required of him. As leader of the SS-Sonderbataillon Dirlewanger he especially proved his leadership qualities and led the battalion to considerable successes in the fight against bandits. For these deeds in leading the troops and for his personal engagements Magill was recommended to receive the Iron Cross Ist Class. Leading this battalion in a Russian area far away from other units of the Army and the police was especially difficult because the battalion consisted of 50% of Germans with heavy criminal records and of 50% of assistance groups (Russians and Ukrainians). Page 99 Since November 15, 1941, SS-Sturmbannfiihrer Magill has been with me on the Eastern Front and belongs to my personal staff in dispensing the tasks of the Waffen-SS. He was took part repeatedly in leading operations against bandits. From December 28, 1942 to February 20, 1943, he was involved in fights against bandits more extensively as leader of the SSSonderbataillon Dirlewanger. He executed all tasks demanded from him in an exemplary manner, whereby he demonstrated strength and decisiveness, paired with thoughtfulness and a talent for organizing. To sum it up, he is an SS leader who proves himself in every situation and shows leadership qualities. SSSturmbannfiihrer Magill possesses a decent, quiet character. He is well liked among his comrades and is respected as a strong and just leader by the men under him. His bearing is military, his behavior positive and immaculate. He has always fought for the National Socialistic philosophy and the National Socialist state. Page 100 engagements. From December 28, 1942 to February 1943 as leader of the SS-Sonderbataillon Dirlewanger, took part in the following missions and battles: On December 29, 1942 fighting against bandits south of Berezino. January and February 1943 Operation Franz, Erntefest 1, Erntefest I] and Hornung. Page 100 After service with Dirlewanger, Magill later was assigned to the 14th Waffen-SS Division “Galician” as the commander of the division supply troops. In this position he received the following report from Fritz Freitag, Page 100 Magill has been engaged with the 14th Waffen-SS Volunteer Division “Galician” as commander of the division supply troops from March 2, 1944. His character is open and truthful, clean decent attitude, modest behavior. Slender, sporty figure, fully ready for action. Magill has a quiet but definite demeanor, gets results. Page 100 Magill was awarded the War Service Cross 2nd Class with Swords in 1940, the Iron Cross 2nd Class in 1941, the Eastern Front Medal in 1942. He appears to have had some alcohol related incidents in his career, but there is no evidence of criminal conduct in his file which would warrant his assignment to the Sonderkommando for disciplinary reasons.” Page 105 **Personalakt Franz Magill, Washington, D.C: National Archives Microfilm Publication A3343, Records of SS Officers from the Berlin Document Center, Roll SSO-288A. Page 105 * Yerger, Mark C. Riding East: The SS Cavalry Brigade in Poland and Russia 19391942. (Atglen, PA: Schiffer Publishing, 1996), pp. 40-42, 51, 78. It is quite likely that Magill met Dirlewanger at Lublin in 1940 when both were operating in the area, although no documentation exists to support this assumption, Magill’s replacement in SS Cavalry Regiment 2 was SS-Standartenfiihrer Heino Hierthes, but Fegelein replaced him in early September 1941 due to Hierthes’ lack of aggressiveness. Page 105 *° Personalakt Franz Magill. Page 105 ** Personalakt Franz Magill. Page 106 Meanwhile, another anti-partisan operation was brewing. Operation Franz, scheduled to run from December 28 to January 14, was an attempt to eliminate some two thousand five hundred partisans in the Berezino, Cerven’, Khutor, Novaya Niva, Novyye Lyady, Petrovka and Bogushevichi. Intelligence reports stated that the partisans operated in groups of one hundred to two hundred, were armed with machine-guns and artillery, had many Jews among them with many partisans probably clad in captured German uniforms. The overall plan for the operation called for an attack by Battle Group Kutschera from the north and Battle Group von Gottberg from the south to converge on the partisans and in the German vernacular “clean the area.” SS-Brigadefiihrer Kutschera would command the northern group of forces.’ Page 106 SS-Brigadefiihrer Kutschera reinforced the Sonderkommando with four tanks and an artillery battery of 76.2mm Russian cannon from the 56th Schuma Artillery Battalion. SS-Sturmbannfiihrer Franz Magill formed Page 107 Magill made steady progress; on January 7 the battalion headquarters reached Krasnaja Sloboda and later Kopsewitschi. On January 9 Magill attacked southwest from the village. The partisans tried to flee to the northeast and the battalion received fresh instructions to set up a defense one kilometer north of Wesseloff near Jaswenski, and defend facing south. On January 10, SS-Sturmbannfiihrer Magill ordered the battalion to round up all persons in the area between the ages of sixteen and fifty who were fit for work — they would be shipped off to Germany as slave labor. As usual, the Sonderkommando also confiscated livestock. The battalion continued attacking partisans on January 12. Magill gave amplifying in- Page 108 structions on capturing persons fit for work. Men could be between the ages of sixteen and forty-five, while unmarried women should be between sixteen and thirty. The SS would take these persons to a collection camp at Berezino. On January 14, Operation Franz came to an end, and the battalion prepared to move to Osipovici for a new action. Overall casualties for the operation are unknown. However, Battle Group von Gottberg, the southern group of German forces, reported killing 1,349 partisans and capturing 280 rifles, one 76.2mm howitzer, two anti-tank guns and two heavy mortars.° Page 110 The Dirlewanger battalion was then ordered to participate in Operation Erntefest (Operation Harvest), an anti-partisan operation, scheduled to begin on January 19, in the Minsk, Ivenets, Nagornoye, Krugloye, Osipovici, Sluck, Rakov, Osovo, Omgovichi and Kopyl’ areas to confiscate agricultural products and livestock and to secure local personnel for the labor force in Germany. For the operation, the battalion would be assigned to Einsatzgruppe Griep. The area to be searched was divided in half — Einsatzgruppe Griep would secure the southern half of the zone and Einsatzgruppe Worm would secure the northern half.’ On January 16, the battalion cleaned weapons and performed other refitting tasks, and on the 17th SS-Obersturmfiihrer Ingruber traveled to Bobrujsk to get winter uniforms and camouflage clothing. On January 19, the Sonderkommando entrained to travel to Sluck; it conducted the operation as planned until January 26 when it was ordered to attack suspected partisan camps near Krugloje. Magill found an abandoned camp that day but made no contact with the enemy.* Page 110 SS-Sturmbannfiihrer Magill completed an after action report on January 28 for the operation. The Sonderkommando reported killing fortyeight partisans and executing thirty-four suspicious persons. Additionally, the Germans captured twenty-six partisans. The enemy killed three Sonderkommando soldiers (including a translator) and wounded four. The battalion detained seventy-seven work-capable civilians, seized 164 large livestock and eighty five tons of foodstuffs.’ Overall in the operation, the Germans reported killing 805 partisans and executing 1,165 suspects. Additionally, they reported capturing thirty-four partisans."

= I'm tired =

I'm tired

= Origins of interest in Dirlewanger's gangs. =

I don't really remember exactly when, but it was probably around late 2021 or early mid 2022. I was searching for what is the most realistic war movies and I found this Soviet film titled "Come and See". At that time, I was still unaware of the existent of Dirlewanger and his Brigade. So i watched it and was traumatized during the barn scene. Like,

I was there

This are real...

This indeed happened...

Remember Khatyn....

This was based on the real Dirlewanger Brigade....

Then in 2023, I was given a task by English Teacher to make a presentation about anything. ANYTHING. I decided to make a presentation about the brigade. but i was still lack of info about them so i rely on Wiki. However, due to lack of time spending on making the presentation slide. I keep changing topic. From the Brigade, to its commander and then Khatyn which is the topic i pick in the slides. I ended missing the day which i was supposed to make the presentation. What a waste. It was presented by my partner (who dont know anything about it) and another classmate who barely understand the event i'm picking. Anyway, I was creditted for making the slides.

I keep researching the brigade from outside (I mean outside of Wikipedia) and then I found this book.

The SS Dirlewanger Brigade: The History of the Black Hunters - Christian Ingrao.

I first found the book while scrolling in Everand (at that time was Scribd). So, I borrow the ebook and read it. It truely amazed me and I realize, Wikipedia page on this unit don't have this additional info. However, I wasn't yet ready to do editing in Wiki so i decided not to. Then, I found Maclean's book at the Internet Archive. This one is completely different.

It's a large record of Dirlewanger's unit operation during the whole war. Tho, Ipolysag chapter isn't very covered in the book since the record of the operation probably got burned during the German retreat in late 1944 or early 1945.

On 15 September 1944, I made my first ever edit on Warsaw Shield. There's a photo of Dirlewanger's men there and said "A Sturmbrigade"..... That's what i changed. I changed it to "SS-Sonderregiment Dirlewanger". Then I make more editing. I also make a correction on any ranks, especially the RONA Brigade. Previous user put their rank as "SS-" instead of "Waffen-". NOT GERMAN > NO SS RANK BUT WAFFEN RANK. Then, I found Nash's book.

That's the book I repeatedly use as my main source for Dirlewanger Brigade. Other than that, Maclean's is also a good source. A very expensive one too similar to Nash's. Tho Maclean's book is no longer accesable in Internet Archive, I might be still able to use some part of it that is still available for reading using the text finder.

For now, the Hungary Chapter is by far are the most difficult one to write because It cost me time to read the whole book. The battle of Ipolysag itself is very complicated and complex, unlike the regular Anti-Bandit warfare that Dirlewanger fought from 1942-1944 (before December). Unlike Ipolysag, Anti Partisan Operation is easier to studied because their task is basically:

• Go to forest
• Find and kill partisan
• Search for nearest village
• Burn em

That's what I understand of it, The whole unit's organisation is also simple. For example, SS-Sonderregiment Dirlewanger had only 2 battalion with 4 Kompanie each. (That's the main combat forces, not including HQ and Additional group). But December 1944 is different. Dirlewanger had to deal with modern fighting. He had to stayed at HQ while his whole 6 battalion is spread wide at 40km wide ipolysag. He's unfamiliar with this kind of fighting because he often fight along with his unit like when Dirlewanger personally lead the Kampfgruppe Dirlewanger fighting at the Old Town. FIghting in Ipolysag prevent him from knowing the status for his own battalion and that's where their major defeat happened. Hofle should have not send Dirlewanger's battalions at three different area, far from each other and commanded by different commanders instead of by Dirlewanger himself.

Hmm, I don't know what to say now.

= Table of Unit Designation =

= Composition =

= 2.SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger Orders of Battle =

= The Brigade's officers info =

Due to only few sources written about them exist for now, I'm unable to provide their info completely. If the documentation is complete it would be then used as a basis for draft later.

Kurt Weisse (11 October 1909 - missing on 5 Mac 1946) is a German SS-Obersturmbannführer who served as an deputy commander in the Dirlewanger Brigade and adjutant to Oskar Dirlewanger.

Kurt Weisse was born on 11 October 1909 in Ehrenfriedersdorf, German Empire. He studied at a Real-Gymnasium and worked as a foreign trade correspondent. He's able to speak in English and French fluently.

He joined the Allgeimeine-SS on 16 February 1935 with the Membership number 129,822 and promoted to SS-Untersturmführer while serving in the SS-Totenkopfverbande's 17th Regiment. On 30 Januari 1936, he was promoted to the rank of SS-Obersturmführer, and less than eight months later to SS-Hauptsturmführer as a chief company. In July 1937, he was transferred to the 29.SS-Totenkopfverbande's regiment. On November 1937 he was appointed as acting battalion commander of the unit. In March 1939, he transferred to SS-Standarte Ostmark in Austria, where he commanded the 1st Battalion of the 4. SS-TV Standarte. His next assignment featured his appointment as commander of 1st Btl./SS-Totenkopf-Standarte Ostmark. Weisse married on 27 May 1939. He attained his pre-war career high point on 1 September 1939 when he became the first commander of the newly activated III. Btl./SS-Inf.Rgt. 11, which was stationed in Linz at that time.

On March 1940, the SS-Infantry Regiment 11 was absorbed into the 2. SS-Panzergrenadier Division Reich and he was appointed commander of 9th Company of the SS-Standarte Deutschland. On 19 July 1940, he was brought to trial before the SS and Police Court in Den Haag on suspicion of sexually assaulting a 10-year old boy. Although the SS tribunal was convinced that Weisse had intended to assault the child, it accepted that he had failed to carry out his plan and instead judged him guilty of drunkenness in uniform, punishing him with 14 days’ intensified detention.