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@Andrew Davidson hi, I sent you an email about a day ago, just wanted to send a reminder here again. Thank you so much for your time! Looking forward to hear from you, and have a great weekend! Phoebezz22 (talk) 18:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:Yes, I saw the email, thanks, and will reply directly. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::Sounds great, Thank you so much! Will wait for your response then =) Phoebezz22 (talk) 22:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Having looked, I'm not sure I'm ready for an interview yet. My activity is currently experimental and today's recent update is a typical example. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Request_for_closure where I tried using Gemini to summarise a discussion. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::::@Andrew Davidson Thank you for the thoughtful reply, I really appreciate it! I also took a look at the examples you provided, and I still believe your interactions in such discussions with examples of LLM outputs will provide very valuable insights - and in fact, I think you'll provide a very interesting perspective. Please let me know if you are interested in participating! And if you don't mind, we can also change to emails. Have a great weekend =) Phoebezz22 (talk) 02:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi and... Black Middens
Hi Andrew Davidson!
In due deference to your seniority, you should have been the first editor I bothered in my quest for info, but it has only just occurred to me to check who created the article on the Black Middens. To cut a long story short, I'm trying to tie up a couple of loose ends I've come across regarding the Spanish Battery Rocks, at the estuary of the River Tyne, as an oft-mentioned hazard to shipping in the area. However, I have come up against a series of doubts which render that redlink (or simply a section at another article, a non-starter, at least for the moment. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABarabbas1312&diff=1276038654&oldid=1276012678 have already bothered] another user, Barabbas1312 who, though kindly tolerant of my imposition has, so far, been unable to shed further light on the matter at hand, beyond confirming that the "name doesn't appear to be used on the relevant Admiralty chart, though the battery itself is marked".
Not knowing the area at all, and as sources are few and far between, one of my main doubts is whether said rocks refer to "your" Black Middens or to the rocks on other side of the headland, where the actual artillery battery was located. If the former, since that article already exists, it might just be a matter of adding/finding a couple of sources that link the two sites, or not, as the case may be. Thanks for your time and, as I commented to Barabbas1312, please don't feel obliged to do anything regarding this matter. Happy Editing! Technopat (talk) 17:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
:I started the Black Middens as a spinoff from the Lights of North Shields.
:[https://co-curate.ncl.ac.uk/spanish-battery-tynemouth/ This page about the Spanish Battery] shows a map derived from Google. This labels the Black Middens and other specific features fairly clearly and also shows the coastal rocks. My impression is that the Black Middens usually means the reef of rock in the channel where the name label is. The rocks which form the shore around the headland seem to be a more general coastal feature and don't have particular names. So, the rocky shore near to the battery might be considered distinct but I doubt that it warrants a separate article.
:We could use an article about the battery as the article Tynemouth Priory and Castle doesn't mention it. We could also use an article about the Tynemouth Volunteer Life Brigade Watch House which was built there specifically because shipwrecks were common. I'll make a start on that now.
:A person who might be able to help is {{u|Ojsyork}} who is active in the RNLI and RNLI task force here.
:Andrew🐉(talk) 18:01, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
::Sorry chaps, can't help. I can find histories of Lifeboat Stations, but any ref. to wreck locations etc I just assume they're correct, and add a link if an article exists.
::All the RNLI stations are now done, but I'm still on with List of former RNLI stations, whilst fending off the nonsense created by one other member of the RNLI group!
::And then there are RNLI Fleet pages to update constantly - I'm unlikely to get to Volunteer Rocket Brigades, sorry. Ojsyork (talk) 18:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Greetings All! Many thanks for your prompt replies. As this is your talk page, Andrew Davidson, I hope you don't mind that I respond here also to {{u|Ojsyork}} so as not to have too many loose ends lying around. Yes, regarding that Spanish Battery link, thanks, I have that one and I agree with you regarding the specific reef versus the rocks under the battery and yes, the Watch House merits an article, so if you're happy to do that, great! Look forward to checking it out!
:::Regrading the RNLI, Ojsyork, I have just started using its [https://rnli.org/find-my-nearest/lifeboat-stations/tynemouth-lifeboat-station/station-history-tynemouth Tynemouth's Station history page] as a reference to pages on the :Category:Lists of shipwrecks by year. Hope you manage to fend off the nonsense-peddler. In the absence of 10-foot bargepoles, boathooks are quite effective, as are sculls... (I once had the privilege of seeing a Thames waterman —and ex-British commando— smack a drunken idiot who had fallen into the Thames on the dodgy ebb tide over the head with a scull so as to stun him and stop him from capsizing the skiff we had gone to rescue him in. One of the highlights of my youth! Sorry, off on one of me tangents... --Technopat (talk) 21:25, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
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This Month in Education: March 2025
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- Later this week, the default thumbnail size will be increased from 220px to 250px. This changes how pages are shown in all wikis and has been requested by some communities for many years, but wasn't previously possible due to technical limitations. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T355914]
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Tech News: 2025-19
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- The Wikimedia Foundation has shared the latest draft update to their annual plan for next year (July 2025–June 2026). This includes an executive summary (also on Diff), details about the three main goals (Infrastructure, Volunteer Support, and Effectiveness), global trends, and the budget and financial model. Feedback and questions are welcome on the talk page until the end of May.
Updates for editors
- For wikis that have the CampaignEvents extension enabled, two new feature improvements have been released:
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- Editors can now transclude the Collaboration List on a wiki page (documentation). The Collaboration List is an automated list of events and WikiProjects on the wikis, accessed via {{#special:AllEvents}} (example). Now, the Collaboration List can be added to all sorts of wiki pages, such as: a wiki mainpage, a WikiProject page, an affiliate page, an event page, or even a user page.
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In depth
- The latest Chart Project newsletter is available. It includes updates on preparing to expand the deployment to additional wikis as soon as this week (starting May 6) and scaling up over the following weeks, plus exploring filtering and transforming source data.
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This Month in Education: April 2025
This Month in Education
Volume 14 • Issue 4 • April 2025
- Ceremony of giving certificates and awarding the winners of the edit-a-thon: Meet Slovenia
- The Workshops Wikimedia & Education are back in Brazil
- EduWiki Nigeria: Advancing Digital Literacy in Schools
- Empowering the Next Generation: Wikidata Training at Federal Government Boys College, FGBC Abuja
- Final Wikipedia project with Shefit Hekali school in Peqin, Albania
- Teachers who graduated from the Leamos Wikipedia program in Bolivia become mentors for their colleagues
- Wikivoyage in Has region, Northern Albania
- Wikivoyage workshop in Bulqiza
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- The "Get shortened URL" link on the sidebar now includes a QR code. Wikimedia site users can now use it by scanning or downloading it to quickly share and access shared content from Wikimedia sites, conveniently.
Updates for editors
- The Wikimedia Foundation is working on a system called Edge Uniques, which will enable A/B testing, help protect against distributed denial-of-service attacks (DDoS attacks), and make it easier to understand how many visitors the Wikimedia sites have. This is to help more efficiently build tools which help readers, and make it easier for readers to find what they are looking for. Tech News has previously written about this. The deployment will be gradual. Some might see the Edge Uniques cookie the week of 19 May. You can discuss this on the talk page.
- Starting May 19, 2025, Event organisers in wikis with the CampaignEvents extension enabled can use Event Registration in the project namespace (e.g., Wikipedia namespace, Wikidata namespace). With this change, communities don't need admins to use the feature. However, wikis that don't want this change can remove and add the permitted namespaces at Special:CommunityConfiguration/CampaignEvents.
- The Wikipedia project now has a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia/en}} in Nupe (
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Updates for technical contributors
- Developers can now access pre-parsed Dutch Wikipedia, amongst others (English, German, French, Spanish, Italian, and Portuguese) through the [https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/docs/snapshot/#structured-contents-snapshot-bundle-info-beta Structured Contents snapshots (beta)]. The content includes parsed Wikipedia abstracts, descriptions, main images, infoboxes, article sections, and references.
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In depth
- The [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/2025_Cloud_VPS_VXLAN_IPv6_migration IPv6 support] is a newly introduced Cloud virtual network that significantly boosts Wikimedia platforms' scalability, security, and readiness for the future. If you are a technical contributor eager to learn more, check out [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2025/05/06/wikimedia-cloud-vps-ipv6-support/ this blog post] for an in-depth look at the journey to IPv6.
Meetings and events
- The 2nd edition of 2025 of Afrika Baraza, a virtual platform for African Wikimedians to connect, will take place on [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1747328400 May 15 at 17:00 UTC]. This edition will focus on discussions regarding Wikimedia Annual planning and progress.
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Books & Bytes – Issue 68
Issue 68, March–April 2025
In this issue we highlight two resource renewals, #EveryBookItsReader, a note about Phabricator, and, as always, a roundup of news and community items related to libraries and digital knowledge.