User talk:Anna.kaelin

Image:Ambox warning_pn.svg A tag has been placed on :Anna Kaelin requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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25px If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about {{#if:Anna Kaelin|in the article Anna Kaelin|on Wikipedia}}, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page :Anna Kaelin has been reverted.
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1. 25px Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added {{#if:Anna Kaelin|such as to the page :Anna Kaelin}} do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the {{#if:Anna Kaelin|article's talk page|article's talk page}} before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia.  {{PAGENAME}}
   Your edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=323863220&oldid=323863109 here] was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): http://www.myspace.com (matching the regex rule \bmyspace\.com).
   If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 09:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

1. 25px Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia{{#if:Anna Kaelin|, as you did to :Anna Kaelin}}. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it.  Category:User talk pages with Uw-spam2 notices
   Your edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=323863592&oldid=323863505 here] was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): http://www.myspace.com (matching the regex rule \bmyspace\.com).
   If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 09:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

: Hi there. I can see you've run into some problems creating your first article due a conflict of interest. A couple of things have also caught my eye. Firstly, you're putting external links both in the wrong place as well as for an inappropriate topic; please note that social networking sites and any commercial sites are prone to removal as spam. Secondly, you're incorrectly writing lead sections. I'd suggest you read both the links in my paragraph here, as well as look at the welcome message at the top. Thanks. SMC (talk) 09:14, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I have nominated Anna Kaelin, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Kaelin. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.{{-}}Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.  Skomorokh, barbarian  12:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Anna.kaelin,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Anna Kaelin should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Kaelin .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:32, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article :Anna Kaelin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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A tag has been placed on :IVTOM, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=IVTOM|deleting administrator}}. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg Hello, Anna.kaelin. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page :IVTOM, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{tl|edit COI}} template), including links or details of reliable sources that support your suggestions;
• disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see {{Section link|Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI}});
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see {{Section link|Wikipedia:Spam#External link spamming}});
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: U | now}} - 1737404720) < 13150000 | {{PAGENAME}} | }} voorts (talk/contributions) 20:25, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

I have moved your husband/son's page back to draft. Due to your relationship with him, you may not edit the article. DACartman (talk) 22:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

:This is not my son or husband. There was nothing on the page that was self-promoting, purely informational with facts and links to back it up, however, I was blocked for conflict of interest. Anna.kaelin (talk) 00:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

::As it were, you were reported before the Dean Kaelin article was created as you had twice created an article about yourself and then created a promotional article about IVTOM. The conflict of interest with Dean Kaelin seemed apparent since you have the same surname. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|accept=You have been unblocked. Please do not publish any articles with which you have a conflict of interest directly. Please create them as a draft and submit them for review when you believe they are ready. An editor will then assess them and determine if they need more work or can be published. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)|1=I followed the guidelines as far as keeping edits to purely informative with links and references to back up all facts, and followed other wikipedia published pages with similar artist as a template in order to follow wikipedia's guidelines. It was put back in drafts because it was thought the subject was my husband/son, which it is neither.Anna.kaelin (talk) 00:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)|idletimestamp=20250121192224}} Anna.kaelin (talk) 00:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

:@Anna.kaelin: I will unblock you if you agree to (1) declare a conflict of interest with regard to Dean Kaelin, Anna Kaelin, and any other people or topics with which you have a familial or personal relationship; and (2) to not publish any articles directly, but instead to request their review while they are drafts through articles for creation. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

::Ok. I am unfamiliar with wikipedia posing, so I will look at that "articles for creating", how to a claim a COI. and what constitutes a COI? Anna.kaelin (talk) 15:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

:::posting^ Anna.kaelin (talk) 15:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

:::A conflict of interest is when you have any kind of relationship with a person, group, or thing that you're related to, such as family/friends/employers/teachers, an organization that you're a member of or work for or that your family/friends work for, or an album you produced. It seems like you have a conflict with Anna and Dean Kaelin and IVTOM. Are you planning on writing about anything or anyone else that you have a relationship with? voorts (talk/contributions) 16:14, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

::::Totally understood when I was told I had a COI in 2009 when I was writing about myself, however, didn't understand why it was a COI for IVTOM, a business I have never been employed with, and then when I did the one for my Dad (Dean), but used other resources and made it strictly informational. But no, I do not have any plans to create any more pages. How do companies, artists, etc. get their pages published if people who know them (managers, etc.) cannot create the pages for them? Anna.kaelin (talk) 01:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::Wikipedia articles are meant to distill what reliable secondary sources have said about the topic. When those sources start covering the topic, it naturally emerges that uninvolved parties will create an article. Primary sources can provide information, but only secondary sources can indicate if a topic is notable to begin with. _signed, Willondon (talk) 01:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

::::Also what is the difference between promotional vs. informational in wikipedia terms? The IVTOM page I created was not selling anything, but told the history of the creation of the organization, etc. Anna.kaelin (talk) 01:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::Promotional doesn't need to mean selling something. It can also mean that it's written in a way to portray the topic in a positive light. Sentences like this are usually considered promotional in the Wikipedia community: "The organization strives to teach natural, unaffected, and healthy vocal production, with a return to pure bel canto singing in all styles and is available to people on all continents and countries." voorts (talk/contributions) 01:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::Wikipedia articles are only published for topics that meet what's called our "notability guideline". Basically, a topic should only have an article on Wikipedia if it has received "significant coverage" in sources that the Wikipedia community considers to be reliable and are independent of the person who wrote them. For example, a company that has had several newspaper stories and a book chapter written about its history, structure, and products would probably have an article; a company that has only ever published in the Yellow Pages and had one write-up in a local publication a decade ago would not. To answer your question of how companies, artists, etc. get articles that stay up, that usually happens when (1) a random person creates an article or (2) a person at the company or an editor on their behalf produces an article that meets Wikipedia's standards and successfully and transparently discloses that there is a conflict of interest. Many companies also have people on staff or at PR firms that disclose their employment arrangement and make edit requests to existing articles. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::Even though you've never worked for IVTOM, you have a COI with it because your father is founded it. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::Ok thank you for this. So to disclose a COI you put that in the talk page of that article? Anna.kaelin (talk) 14:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Also, for that line you quoted from the IVTOM article would it be ok to put that it is their mission statement? Anna.kaelin (talk) 14:28, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Yes, I added a disclosure for you on the talk page of the draft. I would recommend taking a look at articles on Wikipedia about other non profits to get a sense about what kind of tone is expected. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Thanks Anna.kaelin (talk) 16:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

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:Hi Anna.kaelin. Wikipedia needs some way of verifying that the copyright holder of this photo has given their :WP:CONSENT for to be uploaded and used as licensed. The link you've provided on the file's page is insufficient for that purpose. Please be advised that the person taking a photo (not the subject of the photo) is typically considered to be its copyright holder, and it's this person's consent that Wikipedia needs to verify. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Badbluebus (talk) 03:35, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like the page has been deleted. Can you help me to understand. There are similar pages, that I used at templates that use the same, or similar wording, have a similar career path, with even less notable sources (credits on movies, t.v., etc.) but their pages are still up. I am new to writing pages on wikipedia, so I just want to understand, to be able to do it better. Thanks. Anna.kaelin (talk) 14:21, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

::Relevant notability guidelines for musicians include WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC . Check also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Badbluebus (talk) 14:38, 14 February 2025 (UTC)