User talk:Apndrew

File:Commons-emblem-notice.svg You have recently made edits related to the Arab–Israeli conflict. This is a standard message to inform you that the Arab–Israeli conflict is a designated contentious topic. This message does not imply that there are any issues with your editing. Additionally, editors must be logged-in, have 500 edits and an account age of 30 days, and are not allowed to make more than 1 revert on the same page within 24 hours for pages within this topic. For more information about the contentious topics system, please see Wikipedia:Contentious topics. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

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You have been sanctioned for operating a single-purpose account dedicated to editing this topic area and influencing discussions about it, persistently exceeding the few exceptions the extended-confirmed restriction has, casting aspersions ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Edit&diff=prev&oldid=1274726672]), editing articles about the topic directly ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Apndrew&namespace=0&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=1000&offset=20250211], simply a list of your mainspace contributions which is almost equivalent to a list of restriction violations) and making argumentative not-really-just-edit-requests ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Edit&diff=prev&oldid=1275096605], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine&diff=prev&oldid=1270971530#Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_9_January_2025]). You had been blocked as an enforcement measure after warnings in the same topic area before ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apndrew&oldid=1230157241]).

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In case you missed it, I have messaged you at: Talk:Anne Norton#Antisemitism. Rainsage (talk) 02:33, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you for pointing this out. I responded to you there. Apndrew (talk) 03:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi, Apndrew. First off, I've removed the appeal template you placed on this page. (You can still find it in the page history.) The way it works is that that template goes on WP:AE or [[WP as a new section, not here.

That said, I would strongly discourage you from appealing right now, for the reason that most of the edits you've made since the TBAN was imposed have been violations of it. AE admins are generally disinclined to grant an appeal by someone who has been violating the restriction that was imposed, and you are more likely to wind up blocked than unbanned.

However, just as one AE admin, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now and assume you misunderstood how a topic ban works. So to be clear: You cannot make any edit, on any page on Wikipedia, concerning the Arab–Israeli conflict, broadly construed. So U.S. university protests about the Gaza war count. Historical emigration to Israel counts. Edits on talkpages, while partly exempt from the extended confirmed restriction (ECR), nonetheless count as topic ban violations. The only exceptions are reverting blatant vandalism or blatant BLP violations, or engaging in legitimate and necessary dispute resolution (like this conversation). Special:Diff/1279888370 might fall under "blatant BLP violations", but honestly probably not... although it's in enough of a gray area that if it were the only violation, we wouldn't be having this conversation. (Call me crazy, but I don't like warning or sanctioning people for constructive edits.) But still, banned means banned, so an edit merely being constructive isn't enough to keep it from being a topic ban violation.

Please let me know if you have any further questions about how topic bans work. I'm going to log this warning, but will leave things at that. Again, if you want to appeal the TBAN, now you know how, but I don't think that would be a good idea at this juncture—especially given that, even if un-TBANned, you'd still be covered by the ECR, and the TBAN is only a bit broader than the ECR. (The only major difference is talkpages.) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 22:09, 12 March 2025 (UTC)