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The article :AccessArt has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The Guardian article cited is written by Briggs and seems to be more about her opinions on art than the organisation itself. All the other coverage I've been able to find such as [https://www.theguardian.com/education/2002/sep/17/elearning.technology4 this] 2002 article also from the Guardian barely goes beyond mentioning the name. Unfortunately seems unlikely there will be enough coverage to meet WP:NORG

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:Hi @Alpha3031,

:Thank you for your message. I agree that newspaper coverage of AccessArt is insufficient, which is a shame.

:However, I interpreted WP:NONPROFIT to have been met because:

::The charity's scope is genuinely national with tens of thousands of schools paying for membership, representing the majority of schools in the UK.

::The schools individually refer to the charity's authority, for example by referring to the charity's guidance, informing their teaching of Art and the shaping of their curriculums. So there are thousands of independent reliable organisations referring to the charity as an authority.

::The schools also each provide 'coverage' of the educational materials provided by the charity.

:The charity therefore affects tens of millions of UK students annually, which clearly constitutes "significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society and education" as required by WP:NORG.

:'Notability' isn't just what's in the press.

:Best, ArtDataArt (talk) 17:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::Is there any coverage that is from organisations both independent of AccessArt and has a reputable fact checking process? We do still need some sort of coverage in order to be able to have an article compliant with the core content policies which is why you still need to meet point 2 (see also WP:WHYN). Alpha3031 (t • c) 03:30, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:Hi @Alpha3031,

:Just a thought, would merging this article to Visual arts education#United Kingdom be most appropriate?

:Thank you,

:ArtDataArt (talk) 20:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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:I've updated the two files with clearer rationale. Thank you. ArtDataArt (talk) 14:41, 15 November 2024 (UTC)