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Bach's cantata was performed 300 years ago, by occasion. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Today's main page has again memories of three people who died, for two just the name and for the third an image (great!) coupled with a little bit from her life which seems too little for my taste. What do you think? - A friend of mine sang in Verdi's Requiem at Trinity Church, - you can watch [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ld7VNaKss the lifestream] (Verdi about 30 minutes into it). - The pic is from Joannisberg where I went again on Saturday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hi Gerda. I think the hook, as it *finally* ran, was reasonably complete. Thanks for the Verdi link and, of course, the Johannisberg flowers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Finally yes - I was pleasantly busy with company and travel, so couldn't tell everybody that the change was made as wanted. (I said so on my talk.) Why was that so difficult, I wonder? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Recommended reading today: Christfried Schmidt, a story about patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:18, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Interesting article, thanks Gerda! Floquenbeam (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: I didn't write (most of) it, - I check the list of people who died, and improve those that interest me, some more than others, like this one. Today's funny story - for a change - is a birthday child. Patience: there's (still) a 2013 discussion on the talk ;) - Thank goodness, nothing similar happened after Max Reger, 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:11, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: check my talk today for two pics of Margot Friedländer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Is "Versuche, dein Leben zu machen" better translated as "Try to make something of your life", or "Try to make your life"? The article gives the first as a translation of her Mom's message, and the second as the literal translation of her book title. It seems like the book title is almost universally translated literally, so maybe "make something" would have been phrased another way; if so, I'm not sure there's a benefit to the informal translation. Floquenbeam (talk) 16:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::: tough, I don't know: the phrase is informal, so hard to translate. In formal German, it might be "etwas aus deinem Leben zu machen", which is probably what "Try to make something of your life" is trying to say, but I'd understand "dein Leben zu machen" rather as "you are the maker/creator of your life", the one to shape your life, responsible for how your life will be, you, not others. I am not sure that was intended, though, nor if "make your life" would mean that. --GA

:::::: having thought more and talked to another friend, I changed (back) to always like the book title --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::translation is always tricky. I think it's good they're consistent, at least. Floquenbeam (talk) 15:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: now May Abrahamse (with uncertain licensing of portrait), and Vakhtang Machavariani (nominated) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: listen to Machavariani's Mariupol --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: musings on 15 May, including a 100th bday and OTD by day (instead of occasion) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: birthday of Erik Satie --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:55, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:::: Alla Osipenko, too tired for more than a link. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Regarding your ping a few days ago: Sorry, I didn't have the time or the stomach to go to another user's talk page to try to mediate (or, at least, opine). If nothing else, I do not think they would value my opinion. I sort of understand their frustration; I really understand your frustration. Too swamped in real life to get frustrated myself.

In other news, the youngest Floquette in graduating from college this weekend! --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

: that's terrific! tell her congrats!! - I hope you keep following my stories without prompts, Osipenko was really interesting. Did I know that she was Nureyev's partner the night before he defected, which was breaking news then? No. And how much character! Today is Verdi day: a singer whose first performance at the Met was Fenton, and anniversary of the premiere of the Requiem. Just click on music to see the stunning cover. - swamped in RL as well. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Copyright Issue

You might remember [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#concerns_with_wides-pread_use_of_links_to_copyvio_material_in_references this discussion] which lead me to revert another user's changes to the WINC (AM) page. Well, the discussion has petered out. Nthep has said that the links don't violate COPYVIO (they are an admin). [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1289472853 Attempts] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1289473009 to] gain more eyeballs to the discussion were removed.

So, since the discussion has exhausted itself, an admin says the links are allowed, can I revert back to the previous version? - NeutralhomerTalk • 21:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:Well, to be fair, another admin thinks they aren't allowed. And a third one (me) sees the points on both sides, and just doesn't know the answer. I would say that your 0RR restriction means that you shouldn't revert back to the previous version unless (a) Mikeblas agrees with you, or (b) there's a clear consensus somewhere that the links are allowed.

:I understand the frustration at not attracting enough interest to get a consensus. WP:MCQ might not have been the perfect place, but it's not that crazy, and it's odd that things stalled with so few editors. If you restart the discussion at a "better" place, take care to choose the location carefully; too many restarts will get you accused of forum shopping.

:My best idea: Ask User:Diannaa, either for the answer, or for the proper location to have a discussion. This might not be exactly her main area, but I (and I think many, many others) tend to just trust that whatever she says about anything copyright-related is correct. I sometimes feel bad that people ask her copyright stuff all the time, but it's her fault for being competent.

:If she's not around or doesn't answer, you could ask at WP:HELP or WP:TEAHOUSE about where the best place to restart the discussion would be. Or, alternatively, I notice User:Primefac replies to a lot of questions at WT:COPYVIO, he may know the best place to restart this discussion. Maybe it is even at WT:COPYVIO, I just don't know. Floquenbeam (talk) 15:41, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

::meant to ping {{ping|Neutralhomer}}. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:41, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Been a week (flooding, work, storms, work, the usual), so I'm just now seeing this. I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Diannaa#Discussion_Location_Request messaged] Diannaa and we'll see what she says. I fear that asking too many people would be seen as FORUMSHOPPING too. - NeutralhomerTalk • 00:47, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

::::WT:CP is much less watched than WP:MCQ. Since the discussion at the latter board has stalled a bit but isn't ancient, I would consider cross-posting to WT:CP to maybe get more eyes on it without the issue of starting an entirely new discussion. Make a note at the original that you've done so (at the very least so there's a fresh timestamp to avoid premature archival). Unfortunately, sometimes discussions just stall without a resolution; the only thing to do really is try to attract more attention. Primefac (talk) 21:20, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::{{replyto|Primefac}} I honestly don't have the time (or the patience) on here like I used to. So I just [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WINC_(AM)&diff=prev&oldid=1291719975 did some correcting of the broken/misformed references], which were throwing up a slew of error messages. Correcting them all [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WINC_(AM)&action=history took far longer] than I'd like to admit. Beyond that, I'll leave the discussion to someone else. I just don't have the time. I appreciate your help, though. - NeutralhomerTalk • 00:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)