User talk:Fowler&fowler#Sockpuppets

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:*{{citation|last1=Thapa|first1=Namrata|last2=Tamang|first2=Jyoti Prakash|author2-link=Jyoti Prakash Tamang|chapter=Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)|title=Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture|editor-last=Tamang|editor-first=Jyoti Prakash|location=Singapore|publisher=Springer Nature|year=2020|isbn=978-981-15-1485-2}} and

:*{{cite journal |last1=Tamang |first1=Jyoti P. |last2=Sarkar |first2=Prabir K |last3=Hesseltine |first3=Clifford W |doi=10.1002/jsfa.2740440410 |year=1988 |title=Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling |periodical=Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture |volume=44 |issue=4 |pages=375–385}}

  • Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

My work on Wikipedia starting April 24, 2025

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I have suffered an acute and unexpected personal loss. My work on Wikipedia for the foreseeable future will be restricted to (i) reverting edits that, in my assessment, are very obviously of undue weight and (ii) content work related to British India before the Indian rebellion of 1857. If I have reverted an edit, please trust that the revert was made in good faith and with the experience of my 18-year stint on Wikipedia. Open a thread on the article's talk page and attempt to establish a consensus for your edit. I won't edit war nor will I have the time or heart for talk page discussions, but perhaps other editors will step in. Please do not express your discontent or ask for clarity on my user talk page. Please give me space. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:20, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Flower bouquet in Tarnowskie Góry, Silesian Voivodeship, Poland, December 2023.jpg - Let's talk! 15:06, 24 April 2025 (UTC)]]

:Thank you, {{re|Joshua Jonathan}} Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:16, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:: My condolences and sympathies for you.🌹 MŠLQr (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you {{re|MSLQr}} Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:24, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::::I'm really sorry to hear such a loss....Please Take Care. MŠLQr (talk) 02:28, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{re|Joshua Jonathan}} My wife was both a flower and animal lover. We have over a dozen animals in two homes. We planned to consolidate in 2026 by moving to a country house with ample space for the animals and gardening. But that, sadly, will not come to pass. It haunts me that it was so unexpected. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:25, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::Oh, I'm really sorry to hear this! What an awfull loss. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::So sorry to hear your sad news. Deepest condolences and love to family and friends. DBaK (talk) 18:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you DBaK for your kind words. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::Fowler, we've disagreed on many things, and I’ve accused you and your motives countless times. But today, I feel your pain, and I’m truly sorry this happened. This is not only heartbreaking — I have teary eyes as I write this. May her eternal soul rest in peace, wherever it is. I will also offer my prayers.

::May you recover from this, stronger than before. I’ll be looking forward to arguing with you again once you return in full form.

::"One day, all of us will perish — our names, our memories, everything. The only thing that will remain is our work, even if it is never recognised, or we are never recognised for it. And perhaps that’s the only solace we can find in the face of death."

::Take care, brother. 2409:40C1:2E:3339:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 18:21, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Although I don't know who you are or our disagreements, I thank you User:2409:40C1:2E:3339:8000:0:0:0 for your heartfelt advice. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:14, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::Being unexpected is terrible. My heart goes out to you. Doug Weller talk 18:50, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you Doug. It's a surreal time. Every kind word helps. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Take care, take time. CMD (talk) 17:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::I'm very sorry to hear this, Fowler. Bishonen | tålk 18:23, 24 April 2025 (UTC).

:::Thank you Bishonen. She was always amused that I took disputes on Wikipedia so seriously. Her favorite remark if she saw me typing away furiously was, "You got busted?" Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, CMD. Yes, time it will take. Soon after we were married, a relative, seeing my shiny wedding ring, asked if I had had it engraved on the inside as a form of identification. I replied, "Why would I? It's never coming off." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:33, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  • My condolences Fowler, and lots of love. RegentsPark (comment) 18:59, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :Thank you, RP. Although my wife never paid much attention to Wikipedia, everything I did here, including the decision to join in 2006, was made in her presence, or rather, with the confidence of her presence, whether near or far. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:56, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm truly sorry for your loss, Fowler&fowler. Although we haven't interacted much, please know that I and other editors here deeply appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia for last 18 years, especially to the minefield of South Asian articles. Take all the time you need, and take good care of yourself. Sincerely, Sutyarashi (talk) 13:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you very much for your condolence and appreciation, {{re|Sutyarashi}} Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:48, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::Take care @Fowler&fowler. Sorry for your loss. May they rest in peace. Akshaypatill (talk) 16:58, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you for your condolence, {{re|Akshaypatill}} Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:15, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::I'm sorry to hear that, Fowler. Please accept my deep condolences. Take care, dear. Satnam2408(talk) 14:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you Satnam for your kind words. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

This reminds us all what the really important things are in life, and how little a dust-up at Wikipedia matters in the grand scheme of things. So very, very sorry at this incalculable loss, and wishing you centering and peace. Take good care of yourself, F&F, as you welcome those close to you to rally around and take good care of you as well. Best, Mathglot (talk) 18:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you very much {{re|Mathglot}} for such thoughtful commiseration. I will keep it in mind in this uncharted, and still painful, phase of my life. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:44, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

  • So sorry to hear this! Look after yourself! Johnbod (talk) 03:52, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Thank you {{re|Johnbod}} I'm trying.
  • :Friends have reached out. In particular, one who I have known for 30 years, a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, who had studied trauma (and the still officially undiagnosed PTSD) among returning Vietnam vets at Fort Hood in the mid-1960s and two or three years later—on a two-year fellowship in Bristol—among parents of children killed in the Aberfan disaster, has been calling several times a week. Many of my symptoms, the wish to leave everything unchanged, the disheveled state the bedroom when the ambulance came, the dozens of hospital parking lot receipts collected over the following two weeks and scattered on the passenger seat of car and the floor below; and the haunting by the final scene in the critical care unit three hours after I had left her laughing and joking in her hospital room, he said are not uncommon among those who have experienced trauma. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Take care, Fowler. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:05, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:25, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Very Sorry to hear the latest update, Fowler and Fowler.LukeEmily (talk) 23:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you, LukeEmily Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::Indeed. I just happened upon this. We haven't interacted in years, Fowler and Fowler, but I offer my condolences as well. Some speak of Wikipedia as distinct from "real life". But this reminds me once again that the Wikipedia community is as real as any other part of life. My heart goes out to you. Regards, Alan W (talk) 01:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you {{re|Alan W}} for your insight. To overcome grief, I feel, we have to marshal all our resources, and Wikipedia is very much one. I'm finding working on small, disregarded, topics to be strangely therapeutic. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:22, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

::::We do what we can. As Guettarda said, you are part of a community that cares about you. Regards, Alan W (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Thank you, Alan W, for that. A physician friend of mine struck a similar note, which I am quoting in the hopes that it might help others similarly stricken: "I am encouraged that you’re engaging with folks who are well wishers ... Our collective experience tells us that eventually the distress fever will break, no matter where you are in the grief cycle." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to hear this Fowler. I was involved in a discussion at the VS Naipaul article, and your absence from that conversation made me wonder how you were doing. I've experienced a lot of profound (and unexpected) losses, but even I can't imagine losing my spouse. Know you're part of a community here that cares about you. Guettarda (talk) 15:29, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you {{re|Guettarda}} for your words of solace. In my youth, I had obsessively read John Bowlby's Attachment and Loss trilogy. In the third volume, he and Colin Murray Parkes' had proposed four stages of grief: numbness, yearning and searching, disorganization and despair, and reorganization. They were probably not strictly linear anyway, but no amount of reading had prepared me for this event. And no theoretical knowledge beats simple words of comfort that ease distress. I am grateful for yours. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:39, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @Fowler&fowler I am deeply saddened by your loss. I hope that with time you find strength. Although I haven't interacted with you much, I've seen some discussions you were involved in, and I must say that over the past 18 years, you have been an outstanding member of the Wikipedia community. I can relate to the challenges, as I have only been active for two years and sometimes struggle to continue.

::Best regards,

::Rawn3012 (talk) 16:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you, {{re|Rawn3012}}, for your kind words, both of condolence and appreciation. I wish you luck in your career on Wikipedia. I hope you will carve out a niche for yourself, however small. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:24, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

File:Sleeping cat 04.jpg - Let's talk! 18:44, 18 May 2025 (UTC)]]

  • Fowler you may not know me but we belong to same period of editing Wikipedia...and we never saw eye to eye and I was (still I'm :/) edit warring you for infobox pictures!! But keeping that aside; I know the grief very well of loosing both parents and the love of my life. I would like to dedicate a song to you and your loss if you don't mind. "Rajnigandha Phool Tumhari"; since you edited South Asia articles hope this song from this 1974 Movie reminds you of the person you have lost. Take Care Fowler! JayB91 (talk) 02:42, 22 June 2025 (UTC)