Hello! Thank you for uploading a bigger image version of the Chaplin image [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Charlie_chaplin_karno_portrait.jpg here]. I'm afraid I may have to revert it though - it is not exactly the same as the image from the source (ie, [http://chaplin.bfi.org.uk/resources/bfi/biog/biog_large.php?fid=biog3&enlargement=bfi-00n-h97.jpg here]), and that source gives a specific date and place of publication (which is important to prove it is definitely public domain). It also doesn't have markings over it! I think the resolution in the original version was of sufficient quality, so is it okay to revert back? --Lobo (talk) 16:27, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
:It is the same photograph. No doubt about that. So, if the source info applies to your photo it applies to this photo as well. Or the other way around, if it does not apply to this photo, it does not apply to your upload either.Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 17:47, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
::Well I'm not entirely sure, because on the file page I'm explicitly claiming that the image was published in Picture Show magazine (and this is very important, because the img is only PD if it was published before 1923)...that's why I feel more comfortable using that image, rather than one that clearly wasn't in a magazine. My eventual goal for the article is WP:FAC, where images are carefully scrutinised. That's why I kind of don't want to risk it...especially since the original was decent anyway. Does that makes sense? Sorry, I don't mean to be ungrateful or difficult. Perhaps you could upload your version as a different file? By the way, I reverted the image because you hadn't replied and I was in the process of updating the page, and then I came here and saw that you had since replied! I wasn't just reverting despite what you had said. --Lobo (talk) 19:33, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Does it make sense, you ask. The only thing I am trying to make clear is, that these two images are unquestionably the same, they have a common source. It can't be anything else than the picture the photographer took at the Witzel Studios in LA. So the information you refer to that proofs it is in the public domain is just as valid for my upload. The image can't be at the same time in and not in Public Domain. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 19:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I suppose you're right, there's no way anyone can say it's not PD. But if we're going to change it, the source link given needs to be the actual one where you got the picture (and then I will add the BFI info separately). I'm wondering if we can find one like yours that doesn't have markings on it though... --Lobo (talk) 20:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, I will re-upload it as a different file. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC)