User talk:Oddsourceuser
November 2024
File:Information.svg Hello, I'm Fuzheado. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andreas%20Ntoi&diff=1255960429 this edit] to :Andreas Ntoi—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 13:52, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
File:Information orange.svg Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use your sandbox. Thank you. Khirurg (talk) 18:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
File:Nuvola apps important.svg Please stop your disruptive editing.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Khirurg (talk) 01:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
File:Stop hand nuvola.svg Your recent editing history at :Parga shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Khirurg (talk) 01:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
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File:Information icon4.svg There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Piccco (talk) 12:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
File:Stop hand nuvola.svg Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Khirurg (talk) 16:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
File:Information icon4.svg There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Piccco (talk) 21:35, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Bistricë|Bistricë]] (November 7)
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CoconutOctopus talk 21:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Navaricë|Navaricë]] (November 7)
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CoconutOctopus talk 21:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Not surprised
Its not even been 3 days since i opened this account and i have been banned because i accidentsly did some of my edits in incognito mode,however i dont belive that to be the reason i got banned.I have used sources for almost all of my edits and i have still had all of my edits reverted.You can try to justify these reverts as me making "pov edits" however i have used citations for almost all of my edits . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oddsourceuser (talk • contribs)
:This does not address the concerns raised at WP:ANI. I very strongly suggest you address those concerns immediately because if you don't, we'll just assume the concerns are justified. --Yamla (talk) 19:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
:I simply dont have a proxy,if you look at edits from 3 days ago they were made with the same ip as my current account,they were made by me.The reason as to why i sometimes used the ip for edits is because some of them were made from my laptop,hell i didnt even know what a proxy until i had to search it up after i couldnt edit a page Oddsourceuser (talk) 19:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
::Please reread Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive_behaviour. Your edits made with your IP address are only a small secondary issue here. You need to address the larger concerns. --Yamla (talk) 19:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
:I didnt notice those,however i will try to address everything
:1.Pov edits:Many of my "pov" edits were wronfully marked as such,and most of these edits i fixed in later edits.Not to mention some of them were just poorly phrased and sounded like pov edits
:2.Unwilling to talk:I was not aware if you or the other messages were a bot or not and not to mention i have been very busy as of lately,i did notice that you sent me a warning but i didnt know that it would immediatly lead to a block.
:3.The edit war: The pages i edited you already mentioned,however in the pages of agia,himara(town),himara and a few others i didnt really do anything wrongly.In the other pages i either spoke unformaly or derived to much from the source,however it wouldnt be hard for the guy i was having a edit war with to simply change or cut out the pov parts,not revert all my edits.
:Anyways i do apologise for my behaviour as i initally thought the ip block was for something else Oddsourceuser (talk) 20:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
::Also some of the edits that were pov edits i tried to fix Oddsourceuser (talk) 20:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
{{unblock reviewed |1=I have not been banned for something reasonable and i have also had my edits taken down for fake reasons |decline = This account is neither banned nor blocked. Please disable your proxy. Note that you may need to wait a full 24 hours after doing so, in order for the proxy block to clear. Yamla (talk) 19:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)}}
About Draft:Bistricë
Please add the page number of the page [https://helios-eie.ekt.gr/EIE/handle/10442/8696 documenting what you write]. I would like to verify it - thank you very much. LefterDalaka (talk) 19:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Bistricë, Albania|Bistricë, Albania]] (November 10)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Blocked as a sockpuppet
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Sockpuppet ban
I thought i was banned for some other reason but im not a sockpuppet of Gjoleka,the source that i used that you mention i took from the albanian page of ladochori(Ledhezë in the albanian page).I havent read through all everything you.Like i told you already i didny even know what a proxy was a few days ago and like another user mentioned most ips are just given out.I dont know how to prove to you how i am not a sockpuppet but if you can explain how to then i gladly will
{{unblock reviewed |1=Im not a any type of sockpuppet account,and if i was i wouldn't be focusing on making draft pages on finiq,to put shortly i belive that you are reaching way too far with your accusations . Oddsourceuser (talk) 12:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC) |decline = Per Yamla's analysis below and the SPI. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)}}
:{{Comment}} Even if you did copy the aforementioned inline citations (diff1, diff2) from the respective article of the Albanian Wikipedia (footnote1, footenote2), which I have no reason to doubt, it doesn't change the fact that {{noping|Adriano sulejmani}} (GJOLEKA's sockpuppet) likewise copied inline citations to the same book (diff1, diff2) from the respective articles of the Albania Wikipedia (footnote1, footnote2), without properly changing the format for the English Wikipedia. Regardless, it is a combination of factors that led to your block. Furthermore, I find it interesting that on 10 November 2024 we have the administrator who reviewed your case expressing their inclination of you being a sockpuppet, and the very following day, on 11 November 2024, {{noping|Coconut1187}} gets registered (CA), who is yet another sockpuppet of GJOLEKA; as if GJOLEKA was expecting your block, and quickly went ahead to create a new one. Besides sockpuppetry, your activity has been disruptive for a number of other reasons (as indicated in this WP:ANI discussion), that a block was imminent anyway. Demetrios1993 (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::I didnt know who gjoleka was,nor do i care and your proof of me being a sockpuppet is 50/50 at best.Besides,why the hell did you guys delete my draft pages?Also if i was a sockpuppet then why am i still trying to get my account back?And a block on my part being imminent does not validate anything.And you have seen that i am not good at sourcing in wikipedia as you have seen my mistakes in my draft pages,you should know damn well im not sockpuppet.Also if possible and if i get unbanned is it possible to bring back my drafts? Oddsourceuser (talk) 18:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::I necesarily dont agree with a ban on my part being imminent because not only am i not going to edit any non draft pages for a while nowBy the way,who is Gjoleka and what did he do? Oddsourceuser (talk) 19:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:::As if you would be the first sockpuppet who seeks to restore their editing rights. Sure, I saw your mistakes in the drafts you initiated, and they happen to be similar to GJOLEKA's, as aforementioned. What makes you think that all sockmasters/sockpuppets are cut from the same cloth, having the same competence, or knowledge of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines? Lastly, I didn't delete your drafts, nor was I seeking it; if anything, I tried to fix your mistakes per Wikipedia's guidelines (this can be confirmed by any administrator, checkuser, or oversighter, who still has access to the history of deleted pages), and thus contributed towards the possibility of them getting accepted for mainspace. Demetrios1993 (talk) 15:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::::I apologise for blaming you for my drafts but yet again i dont know what gjoleka did and what his edits were like, and i dont necesarilly disagree concerning the fact that sockpuppets are not the same people as gjoleka, however i didnt even know who gjoleka was until 2 weeks ago Oddsourceuser (talk) 15:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Çlirim,Finiq
Recently my draft got declined because it was mistaken for another village with the same name in Korçë,if anyone can do anything about it would mean a lot Oddsourceuser (talk) 12:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm being ignored
All of my draft pages been taken down due to alledged connections to Gjoleka at best,not only did anyone not even bother to ask me any questions when opening the gjoleka discussion about me but i also have had no chance to express myself.Firstly i have used 2 ips,one was the one i initially had and that was given to me after i had my initial ip(a day after it got banned i opened incognito and saw that my ip was now different when making edits),and i have been falsely accused of being a proxy account or using a proxy multiple times,someone also said that all the ips were on different devices(not true,both ips were connected to my phone and my laptop).And secondly the source used for ladochori was one that i took from the albanian page of ladochori.Even if i was a sockpuppet it would not be reasonable at all to take my drafts down that took me time to make,not to mention that they were sourced well Oddsourceuser (talk) 14:57, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:Looking at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/GJOLEKA with my WP:CHECKUSER abilities, I agree with the technical findings there from Izno. Still extensive use of residential proxies. --Yamla (talk) 15:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::And how am i supposed to prove you wrong? Oddsourceuser (talk) 15:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Well, my finding is (1) you've been using residential proxies. You could stop using residential proxies. And (2) you are using a different device and a different IP address than previously blocked sockpuppets. I suppose you could prove me wrong by using the same device and the same IP address than previously blocked sockpuppets, though I'm not at all sure why you'd want to do that. And (3) you are signing in from the same country as previously blocked sockpuppets. I'm not sure why you'd want to change that. --Yamla (talk) 15:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::::I quickly looked at my edits and all of them have been set to my new ip, so if what you say is all i can do then i cant do anything, if there is anything else i can do tell me Oddsourceuser (talk) 15:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::I dont have a residential proxy and the phone that i currently use is the same,however i dont think i can get my old ip back as the new ip has become default to me,i will see what i can do Oddsourceuser (talk) 15:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Indefinite unblock appeal
{{Unblock reviewed|decline=I think your best chance of being unblocked is to take the wp:standard offer, and re-apply in 6 months time with no more abuse of multiple accounts. PhilKnight (talk) 00:42, 12 February 2025 (UTC)|reason=On this account i made many pov edits and used a source that was coincidentally used by another user, leading to my indefinite block. I tried to initialy prove that i was not a sockpuppet but it got nowhere as everytime i tried thinking of something it either got nowhere or it lead to the roots of the tree (you used that one source/your activity loosely overlaps with this other guy/random ip talk). Im completely clueless on what i can do, as the other edits i made on my newer account weren't recieved badly. I am appealing to get unblocked because im out of options. I dont expect to get unblocked but i do expect atleast something}}
Oddsourceuser (talk) 20:14, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
:{{Comment}} Only a few hours ago, the user tried to evade their block with two new sockpuppets; {{noping|Leskovik99}} and {{noping|Ratking47}}. Demetrios1993 (talk) 20:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
::Yes, i was not aware it wasnt allowed, hence why i came back to this account Oddsourceuser (talk) 20:36, 11 February 2025 (UTC)