I just saw you mention this - I don't know exactly what they are or how they're enforced, but this would make my Wikilife a hell of a lot easier. Could you point me in the right direction of the policy? SplashScreen (talk) 23:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
:WP:IBAN. Generally agreed on by community consensus. Generally dramatic. I don't see how it would work that well considering you edit in the same areas but meh. A tip though, you're close to getting blocked (a block-happy admin might come along at any moment). You need to learn that when an AfD doesn't go your way, you need to just drop it. When it happens to me, I just unwatch the article and force myself to forget about its existence, if aforementioned existence really bothers me that much. That makes Wikilife easier too. OohBunnies! (talk) 23:17, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you for the advice. I genuinely appreciate it. However, I'd very much appreciate to be put forward for such a block (against Tomica and Status). Their following me around at almost every AfD is getting rather irksome. I think it's the only way to bring this to a close. SplashScreen (talk) 23:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
::: Again; I'm entitled to comment on AFDs of articles I created and any AFDs I want. Statυs (talk) 23:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
::::There are rights and there is behaviour. The two are completely different. SplashScreen (talk) 23:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
::::I guess I am too. In the end, everybody has its opinion so can give his/her vote on that kind of discussions. And tbh some (most) of your comments are not appropriate too. — Tomica (talk) 23:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
{{outdent}} Yes, IBANS don't stop the affected parties from being able to comment on the same AfDs etc, although they wouldn't be allowed to directly talk to each other. It's a big step, and I dunno if this dispute quite at that level yet, not that I can ever see you guys getting along. [http://phoenixx138.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/you-make-bunny-cry2.jpg It makes bunny sad]. OohBunnies! (talk) 23:42, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
:I'm sorry to keep involving you in this Bunny, but I certainly feel that there are a clique of editors who group together and take certain policy positions only when it suits themselves. The discrepancy between comments like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FRun_the_World_%28song%29&diff=501653560&oldid=501653081 this] and comments like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FSkin_%28Rihanna_song%29&diff=456448755&oldid=456447437 this] are evidence of that. No I'm not trying to start a row on your talk page, I'm just making a general point; I never came to Wikipedia with the sole intention of causing a rivalry with Tomica, Status, Hahc21 etc. However, I do feel that they have continually made a point of behaving in such a way towards myself. Constantly backing up each others comments, randomly appearing on AfDs that I've started that are outside of their usual editing spaces. Yes, they have the right to do those things but, as I said earlier, rights and behaviours are different things. I've noticed that Status and Tomica are very young (and perhaps I would've been like that if I was editing Wikipedia at that age), but I just wish they'd realise that Wikipedia is not a war between JLo fans and Rihanna fans or Beyonce editors and Gaga editors or between anyone and anything. There was a reason that Bennifer and Personal life of Jennifer Lopez was deleted (they weren't notable) in the same way that there's a reason that Jennifer Lopez: Let's Get Loud was nominated (it was an awful article). I just wish they'd stop taking Wikipedia so personally. And, quelle suprise, we've had two comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The US network TV schedule articles (2nd nomination) since I started writing this comment. Old habits die hard, eh? 23:54, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
How am I not to take it personally when you seem to like nominating articles I am involved with? Do you not see how that could some across? Surely you aren't that naive. You have a problem with WP:BEFORE. Personal life and Bennifer were deleted, so? Have I requested them to be un-deleted because I was upset about it? No, I haven't. I've moved on and accepted it; as I've pointed out to you previously. "I've noticed that Status and Tomica are very young (and perhaps I would've been like that if I was editing Wikipedia at that age), but I just wish they'd realise that Wikipedia is not a war between JLo fans and Rihanna fans or Beyonce editors and Gaga editors or between anyone and anything." Really? Where's the fucking war? I don't even know what you are talking about. And young? You don't even know my age. Statυs (talk) 00:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
: As for Let's Get Loud, you didn't nominate it because it was an "awful article". You nominated it because "Non-notable concert film release". Same with Feelin' So Good, which was expanded 142x of what it was when you nominated it. Again, issues with WP:BEFORE. Statυs (talk) 00:05, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:I will actually be 20 in November, I wouldn't say that much young with nuances of mature. Lol, That's quite accusation. How old are you man so you can judge us? And yeah how do you know Status age? — Tomica (talk) 00:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. You aren't addressing the issues at hand but pointing fingers and saying "But you did this and you did this". And, surprise, here comes Tomica to back you up. I'd accept the argument if I'd nominated every article on which you've edited, but I haven't. Bennifer, Personal life of Jennifer Lopez, the JLo perfume articles and all the others were nominated and deleted in spite of your involvement, not because of it. It just so happens that you've created a hell of a lot of non-notable articles, which really is not my fault. You following me around the encyclopedia will not discourage me from nominating such articles in the future. The war is in front of you; your contradictory comments at AfDs depending on who is involved, your assumption that people are out to get you just because you create non-notable articles, the snide edit summaries, the constant finger-pointing, the following of users you dislike. And Status, you're 17. SplashScreen (talk) 00:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::I'm not here to fight. Just wanted to say that please, you are discussing something on Bunnies page that has nothing to do with her. Could you leave her talk page in peace and talk somewhere else? Do you know how disturbing this may be for her? None of you are taking into consideration that, really? —Hahc21 00:15, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:::It's alright. I'm just looking at this and trying to think of solutions. :P OohBunnies! (talk) 00:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::"Oh, here's the other one. The rest of The Village People". I'm sure that Bunnies will remove this from her talk page if needs be. My original comment was addressed to her - it was Status who decided to kick off. SplashScreen (talk) 00:18, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::{{ec}} Maybe Status and Tomica may not be old enough to understand that quote, but i do: Next time you commit personal attacks such as that one, i won't act as kind as i have been doing by now. Your attitude and comment are very unrespetful and ridiculous, at the point to reach the level of calling all us gay. Just as Bunnies said, you are close to being blocked. —Hahc21 00:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::: Had to look up the context of that quote. Hope it was worth the personal attack report you will be receiving. Statυs (talk) 00:27, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::See. How do the two of you ever expect to get anywhere when it's always a game of who can out-report who or who can sound more superior than the other. Comparing the way that the members of your little troupe turn up at discussions to a scene from a soap opera is not the issue at hand (nor is it anything to do with being gay as neither the characters referred to in that scene or the majority of The Village People were gay). SplashScreen (talk) 00:31, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::{{ec}} Let me say this: I have nothing against you. I don't care if those articles are deleted or not. Actually the first time i saw your name i was willing to be your friend. But the community changed my mind. Status and Tomica are not the only users who have challenged your actions. Many other users and admins have doe the same, so i think you must be careful with what you do and what you say. I've seen many users banned and i have participated there and it's a very sad situation that i wish nobody to be in. So, just make a soft thought about all this situation you have been involved. I have heard several admins willing to block you and it's allarming. Regards. —Hahc21 00:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::So because I have been threatened with a block, this makes me the devil incarnate as opposed to Saint Status, who was blocked twice just last week. Quite frankly, I couldn't care what your opinions of me are. Hahc21, Wikipedia is not about taking sides in every argument and treating debates like this as some sort of war. Haven't I tried to make that clear? SplashScreen (talk) 00:46, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Wikipedia:Personal attacks? — Tomica (talk) 00:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, good grief. Like talking to a brick wall. SplashScreen (talk) 00:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:: ...NPA? Statυs (talk) 00:35, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:::The problem being that the comment was not personal, nor was it an attack. It was a pop culture reference to an obscurely famous quote [http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=126945]. The fact that it occurred on the talk page of an admin, who doesn't seem to concerned, should be all you need to know. SplashScreen (talk) 00:39, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::Bunnies is not an admin. —Hahc21 00:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- "Eileen and Gail were fighting in the street when they found out Todd was gay and Todd's brother Jason appeared straight from work on the building site and Gail said "oh look here comes the rest of the village people". Statυs (talk) 00:41, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:* OohBunnies! isn't an admin, either. Statυs (talk) 00:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::*Yeah, that's right. The characters refereed to as the Village People weren't gay. They were builders. I used the quote because your group is like that scene - everytime someone ends up in a row, the two friends come strolling along to join in. Them being gay is inconsequential. Why are you so outraged? What's wrong with being gay? SplashScreen (talk) 00:46, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::*{{ec}} There's nothing wrong with being gay, but surely if you call someone "Village People" they will think you are calling them "gay". Well, anyway, let's just drop this ok?. I'm tired to be in this disputes all over Wikipedia. I agree, Status, Tomica and I are good friends and are in constant communication, but we are not conspiring against you. Just that, sometimes, you make one of us upset. —Hahc21 00:53, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:::* Where is my outage? All I did was quote the text and link to WP:NPA? Statυs (talk) 00:50, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::::*The outrage was found in the whole "I'm reporting you for X and Y! This is a personal attack!" from you and your two friends. SplashScreen (talk) 00:52, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::* Please read over the text again; thank you very much. Have a good evening. Statυs (talk) 00:53, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Shush. Just when I think it can't get any sillier. Normally I'd say, "can't you try voluntarily staying away from each other" before mentioning IBANS but I don't know if any of could do that. Could you? And the fact is, I could make a thread somewhere, laying out some context and proposing an interaction ban but there'd be no telling the outcome. People might just think it's easier to block. (Oh, and I'm not an admin...just a regular editor like all of you.) And Splash, you are erring on the wrong side of the civility line, so lets calm down now, please. OohBunnies! (talk) 00:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:IBANS really would be a fabulous idea. SplashScreen (talk) 00:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::Well, I've proposed it at ANI. Might I suggest, to all of you, that if you comment there, keep it civil and to the point, and try not to incessantly fling around accusations. OohBunnies! (talk) 01:25, 12 July 2012 (UTC)