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Why do you keep changing the acta Back.. That is the truth, If it wasent they would not be trying to hid the statis of the draft of the treaty.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.126.41.107 (talk) 22:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I was editing Port of Ramsgate and was looking to mention the walkway collapse. By chance I stumbled across the article about the collapse in your sandbox which is obviously very relevant. Do you have any plans to move the article into main wikipedia space? If so, I think it would be appropriate to have a one paragraph summary in Port of Ramsgate and a link to your article. pgr94 (talk) 23:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

:I was wanting to do a bit more on it before moving into mainspace, but to be honest I've been thinking that for about a year and haven't really got anywhere with it yet! The problem I've been having is that there is one main source talking about the collapse and I find it very difficult not to plagiarise when only using one source. Anyway, now you've given me a kick up the backside I'll have another go. Thanks for the heads up. Quantpole (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks for the reply. I didn't want to pressure you; it was just to let you know that there is interest in what you've done. You seem to have done much of the legwork in gathering sources and writing, which I might have attempted myself if hadn't found your material. Looking forward to seeing it in mainspace. pgr94 (talk) 08:21, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

:::Cheers. Feel free to mess around with it now if you want. I'm not particularly protective over it being in my userspace. Quantpole (talk) 08:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

::::I borrowed your opening paragraph and the references to create a new section in Port of Ramsgate. I hope that's OK with you. Also do you happen to know if the Swedish companies paid their fines in the end? There was some trouble collecting and the issue was discussed in the house of commons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Ramsgate#Walkway_collapse pgr94 (talk) 12:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

:::::Looks good. As far as the fine goes I don't think it was ever collected, but it may have precipitated a change to EU law (see [http://www.tueip.dircon.co.uk/er18-page6.html here] - I'll try and check whether it ever came to fruition). For quite a detailed look at the legal side [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MC22ZHjJME0C&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=ramsgate+collapse+barber&source=bl&ots=f_53qh0RX2&sig=TGlhhAPdGtJugWPCcX-z0DUKL4g&hl=en&ei=7P18TKjPI5bKjAfu1sXTDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=ramsgate%20collapse%20barber&f=false this] is very good. Quantpole (talk) 13:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

:::::It was actually in my list of refs in the sandbox - the law was changed as a result - see [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1484406/New-EU-law-means-no-escape-for-drivers-caught-speeding-abroad.html here] if you're interested. Quantpole (talk) 09:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

::::::Ah yes indeed, a small paragraph hidden in the middle. So as of 2005, no payment. Pretty shocking if the company has genuinely gone unpunished. pgr94 (talk) 11:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

:::::::I don't think there ever will be payment, as the new law doesn't apply retrospectively. However, it does mean that if you're caught speeding in France on holiday they can enforce the fine over here! Quantpole (talk) 11:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello

I noticed you posted at Talk:Stow-Munroe Falls High School#Class of 2010: 101st graduating class on August 11 in reference to {{User|WearyWorld}}. It appears the same user has once again started a new account. Lately none of his edits have been disruptive, at least on the articles I watch that he/she frequently edits, but no answer has been given as to why there is a new account every few months. The latest incarnation is {{User|SoShinesAGoodDeed}}. It's sad, though, because his/her edits have been helpful and positive lately (though somewhat misguided at times). --JonRidinger (talk) 02:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

:Please take this to be me raising my hand. I will commit to this account. SoShinesAGoodDeed (talk) 03:52, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

::I hope you do and look forward to working together on a consistent basis. --JonRidinger (talk) 04:29, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

::Ditto. I agree with Jon that you appear to want to be constructive. If I may give a bit of advice, please can you start discussing things with people. If you get into a disagreement don't edit war or start using another account, but listen and think about what they are saying. Believe it or not, most people here are trying to help! If you still disagree then there are lots of options like third opinions, or requests for comments. Just remember that it's a collaborative project, and there's bound to be differences of opinion. Quantpole (talk) 11:11, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

::Just to add to this - I note that you have been discussing things with Jon at the Stow-Munroe Falls high school article, and Jim Graner looks really good. Quantpole (talk) 11:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Thank you. SoShinesAGoodDeed (talk) 21:22, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

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• To recruit more active editors (See Member News)
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• To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
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and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.

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Work is starting on preparing release 0.8 of the off line version of Wikipedia and the articles are in the selection stage. The initial selection has been done using some metrics about each of the articles. The number of projects that are interested in the article and the breadth of the individual projects. This is followed by the ratings of quality and importance that have been assigned to the article by each of the interested projects. There is also factored in what is termed the "External interest points" which is based on the number of hits the article gets, the number of unique internal links the article has and the number of inter-wiki links the article has. If you want more detail of the algorithm used then see here.

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Getting an image showing the damage that could be put on Commons and used in the article would be good. I added the fair use image because I found it hard to describe what actually happened in words, since before there was only a picture of the tunnel during construction, and this did not really show the devestation. It'd be good if a free picture could be found, though. Just to let you know, I've nommed it for GA status. Regards, Wackywace ^{converse | contribs} 10:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

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This month I thought that I would concentrate on the problem of link rot in articles. Many of you will have spotted a BOT tagging references with the {{tl|Dead link}} template. The template is added when the external link in a reference is detected as being inaccessible or is a redirect to the main page of the site. You should not remove references that are marked as dead unless you are replacing the reference with a new reference. The information in the reference may be useful to someone trying to locate a valid reference for the text. In order to help this process, when adding references in the first place, add as much detail as possible. It is easier to put in the detail while the reference is in front of you rather than waste someone else's time having to fill in the detail. If you want more detail then see Wikipedia:Link rot.

Many of the project's articles have been tagged in this way by the BOT and it would be useful if members could take a look at the tagged references, when visiting a page, and see if the problem can be resolved. May be the link is now active again in which case it is just a simple task of removing the template. May be an archived copy of the link can be located at the Wayback Machine, just add the link to the reference, if it is templated use the =archiveurl & =archivedate paramerters to record the new location of the link. If the site has been restructured then it may be possible to locate the same page used in the reference by following the links from the home page of the site. In this case replace the URL in the reference and remove the tag. Finally a replacement reference may need to be located if copies of the existing reference cannot be tracked down. If a new reference is used then the old reference and the tag can be removed.

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Why did you revert your suggestions on Talk:British people? I found the reply to be very helpful! I've incorporated some of your suggestions into a new 24 person collage that I'm uploading as we speak.--res Laozi speak 23:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

:Mainly because Bertrand Russell and John Wesley had already been suggested. I was going to go back and modify my comment, but I'm afraid it slipped my mind. I'll look through the discussion again and see if I can come up with anything helpful to say. I'm glad you found it helpful at least! Quantpole (talk)

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• To complete tagging and assessment of all Yorkshire related articles (See below)
• To recruit more active editors (See Member News)
• To bring our top level article Yorkshire up to Featured article status
• To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
• To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
• To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members

and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.

;Happy Christmas

Wishing all project members a Happy Christmas and thanks for all the work you have put in to the project over the last year. We have made great strides forward especially in the area of Good Articles

and this month we have a bumper set of seven articles trying for GA status. Some passed the review while others did not, but even a try moves an article forward. Thanks to ll those involved in these articles and keep up the good work.

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Some members will know that we were subscribed to the clean-up listing that was produced on an occasional basis by a BOT. The BOT owner has left and has not released the source of the BOT for someone to pick-up. The last run of this BOT was in March of this year. Others have stepped in and produced a new tool that runs on the tool server to provide projects with similar information.

The [http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListing.php?project=Yorkshire clean-up listing] gives details of all of the articles with the project's banner that have clean-up tags attached to them. The listing is in alphabetical order but can be sorted on class, importance or the number of different tags found in an article. If you want the listing grouped by the different tags then the [http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingByCat.php?project=Yorkshire tag grouped listing] should be used.

According to the tool run dated 28 November of the 8,729 articles in this project 2,725 or 31.2% are marked for clean-up, though I am unsure how it gets the article count figure as that does not appear to match the counts from the assessment table.

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