User talk:Rodw/Archive 13

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I have reviewed the article, and there are some points which need improvement before I can pass it.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:01, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

{{Icon|GA}} Congratulations.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 20:41, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Rod, you're very kind, thank you. I shall endeavor to brush up on the info you provided.

Thanks!

Pickygit (talk) 22:05, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll be back home midweek. Amandajm (talk) 13:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year Rod! Given it a copyedit, would be good for one or two others to do so too. An enjoyable read, spotted a few issues which need to be addressed before GA passing though. I won't mention them now, but my feeling in regard to pictures is that you should use Template:Double image as by placing them in clusters you can get away with more without it looking too cluttered.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

There is also the stack image option, see the transport section of Sisimiut for an example.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

:Thanks for inviting me to have a look at this article. It is certainly a building that should have at least a GA. I have not done a full review — rather a quick glance — and my first thoughts are as follows.

• As Dr B says, the images need some attention/tidying.
• The History section is well-detailed; maybe some combining of paragraphs, and make sure that every fact is cited.
• The Architecture section needs a lot of attention, maybe a full rewrite. Maybe it could be based on the layout of the GA Chester Cathedral, with a proper balance of the different architectural features.
• The Dean of Wells section seems superfluous.
• I suggest you use the National Heritage List for England (NHLE) website[http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/advancedsearch.aspx?reset=true#] rather than Images of England. The latter was a Millennium project, and is frozen in 2000 (or earlier). It is not being updated with new listings, corrections etc whereas the NHLE is updated when changes are made (I have checked this personally with English Heritage). The NHLE reference no. for the cathedral is 1382901 (the text is similar, there is no photo, but there is a map and GR). A helpful template is {{NHLE |num= |desc= |accessdate= |separator=,|ps=}}.
• Have you thought of using the {{sfnp|Name|Year|p=|ps=}} template to link the citations with the bibliography?

:Good luck, and I look forward to a successful outcome. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:06, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

::Thanks all. I have made some of the changes suggested eg remove "Dean of Wells", combine short paras, use NHLE rather than IoE. I have removed some images per a discussion on the articles talk page. I am leaving architecture largely alone as Amandajm has offered to look at this next week.— Rod ^talk 18:42, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Have given an initial copyedit, but I think it needs considerable reinforcement if it is to pass GA. Good work to date though. I started James Dredge and initially wrote James Dredge, Jr. under James Dredge, then realized he'd have been a small boy at the time of building in 1845, so I started James Dredge, Sr.. Interesting stuff, and has identified missing articles on some bridges.. Thanks.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Offhand I'd say that the information on the actual structure, including what features were actually on the pier during its prime (including names of amusements and shops etc) could do with further elaboration. Maybe there is something in local archives and photographs which could be used here.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:24, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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I'm just running through a draft revised intro for the List of Somerset Castles in the sandbox. I'm aiming to make it much more specific to Somerset. Should be done by the end of the weekend and will then seek your opinion from a Somerset perspective if I may... Hchc2009 (talk) 17:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Rodw,

The website: http://old.antislavery.org/breakingthesilence/slave_routes/slave_routes_unitedkingdom.shtml

I read on wiki not to use website URL because of web Rot? Yes I need help and guidance. All day I have been having Issues with Wiki’s sever crashing whenever I preview or save. I’m new and learning on wiki. Question? What is the best or simplest way to go back add the URL’s?

Thank you.

Zns Smith (talk) 18:33, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Rodw,

I forgot to ask. What detail may be more appropriate as the main Bristol article? I'm open to suggestions? When you have time.

Thank you.

Some of the detail you have added may be more appropriate on Bristol slave trade as the main Bristol article only provides a summary.— Rod talk 17:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Zns Smith (talk) 19:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey Rodw,

There are some people sending me messages on this site not so considerate. I’m not sure how long before I have to say something? However, thank you. I have no problems if you make changes and if you can provide me with an example?

I’ll have a look tomorrow. If you can send me an example of the rewording you suggest, I will fix it or removed whatever errors I have made. Again thank you.

Zns Smith (talk) 21:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Rodw,

Ok. Thank you.

Zns Smith (talk) 21:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Dear Rodw,

you so friendly welcomed me and now you got the "black peter" as we say and get bothered by me... ;-)

Still revisiting my photos I found the photo of a painting in the Bristol City Museum and Art Gallery. I was so fascinated by it that I tried to find out who was the painter. It was John Kinnersley Kirby, no article about him on Wikipedia. Maybe he is only a "local hero", but I studied art myself (in a former life...) and this (and as I found out others too) painting is of a high quality. So I wrote the article (did not find much about him).

I wanted to upload my photo (here on [http://www.flickr.com/photos/15942690@N00/ flickr]) but I am not really sure about the copyright. I considered it to be "fair use". What would u say? Rosebud23 (talk) 15:31, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Rodw,

I was hoping you could help. My name's Rupert Janisch, I work on the PR for Thatchers Cider and we've been trying to get some edits made to the Wikipedia page.

Currently there are several innaccuracies, out-of-date photos and logos, etc which need changing. I've suggested the changes on the Talk page but due to lack of traffic they've not been implemented yet.

You've been recommended as a Wikipedian editor who may be able to input the changes for me. I also have some new photos which have been sent to Stevie Benton at Wikimedia which I can send you if you like.

I'm no expert with the workings of the pages but if you could give me some assistance with this I'd be extremely grateful. All the edits are purely factual - no spin!

Hope to hear back from you soon. If you want to email me I'm at rupert.janisch@gmail.com.

Rupert

RupertJanisch (talk) 11:52, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Just to let you know, I have conducted a review of your article and my comments can be found on the review page. The article is currently on hold awaiting further improvement. I hope together we can bring this article to a sufficient standard and pass the article!

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Retrolord (talk • contribs) 10:50, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm very sorry to see the reason for your wikibreak. My condolences to you and your family at this dreadful time. Bencherlite^Talk 21:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

:Likewise. Thinking of you. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:53, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

::Absolutely - my thoughts are with you. Hchc2009 (talk) 16:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

:Sorry for your loss. Mine went suddenly a few years back so I understand a little of what you may be going through. --Bob Re-born (talk) 16:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you all for your thoughts and comments.— Rod ^talk 18:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

::Sorry to hear about your father. I'm really close to my dad and I know how much I'd miss him. I wish you all the best at this time Rod, it must be difficult. Sure, I'll give Bristol a good read this week, looks excellent at quick glance, although I think the books should probably be formatted in a bibliography and possibly some of the web sources could be replaced by books.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

::Rod, I'll get around to reading over the weekend OK? Do you need any better scale maps for pin for anywhere in Somerset/Bristol. If so, ask [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nilfanion/Maps/Requests here]. Maybe for districts or some towns. ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:56, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hi! In reply to your message, i've left further messages on the review page. Please take a look when you get the chance. Thanks! Retrolord (talk) 12:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll try to get back to it this evening....... Amandajm (talk) 00:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rod,

Thanks for the updates - I've left a comment on the Talk page so if you get a minute perhaps you could take a look? There are a couple of bits on the Brands section which could do with being removed, please?

I don't know how to get photos uploaded! I'll get in touch with the chaps at Wikimedia for some assistance and get back to you when they're ready to use.

Thanks so much for your help, it's much appreciated.

RupertJanisch (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rod,

I've just made some more comments on the Thatchers Cider talk page. Appreciate your points and hope we're nearly getting there!

Continued thanks for your assistance,

Rupert — Preceding unsigned comment added by RupertJanisch (talk • contribs) 16:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Rod

I've just been having a look at Wikipedia for Saltford Manor and note your comment regarding its name (listed in some places as Saltford Manor House rather than Saltford Manor).

My paternal grandparents, my parents, my brother and I lived in Saltford Manor during the late 1950's and can confirm your statement that Saltford Manor should not be confused with Saltford House. So far as I am aware, there is no such place as Saltford Manor House.

Yilgiddie (talk) 09:06, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

:In Britain, "manor" refers to an area of land; and "manor house" is the building used to administer that land. Thus, Saltford Manor House is a building within Saltford Manor. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi ,

How do I add hyperlinks to site relating to the subject?

Johnshaun9 (talk) 12:59, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Of course. How is the Bristol article getting on? I took a look earlier today and it looked in excellent shape, haven't got around to giving it a thorough read yet though. When do you intent nominating for an FA?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:29, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Rod! Yes, I've made some minor changes to the article (I hope for the better). It is traditional to include flags (though only where applicable) in infoboxes for battles but I do not know the topic well enough to say whether the rebels need them too. The "Union Jack" with no red X is certainly the correct, loyalist flag for the period. See other articles like Opium Wars where flags are on one side only. It makes it clearer, particularly if there are generals from more than one allied country. Best of luck with your edits, I'll chip in where I can. All best ---Brigade Piron (talk) 22:58, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

What's going on over in Somerset Rod? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ham_Wall&diff=538896648&oldid=457042203] Martinevans123 (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Nope - no idea! When I've been shown Nostoc before it's been black, but I guess it comes in different forms. There's a Google image search result from French Wikipedia that is labelled Nostoc and looks similar, so that could be the right answer I guess. SP-KP (talk) 18:24, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Dear Rod: I added this info, based on the FAA Church website. I modified it, to remove many emotive phrases and superfluous material, and added suitable Wikilinks.

This material is in the public domain: I regret I am uncertain how to reference the original. If you want this info I can re-write it, but I fear you will then accuse me of "original research", so I am caught between two stools!

I also promoted the "RELIGIOUS SITES" section to follow the "HISTORY", and precede the Climate, Geograpy and Transport sections. Judging from your own biog, this should appeal to you.

Thank you for referring to my efforts as "a Good Faith edit"; I now need your advice as to how to incorporate it legally.

RN Rupert Nichol (talk) 18:09, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for your reply. I shall watch with interest how you incorporate the church material from the FAA website, and learn accordingly.

Note that I also changed the Tpt info to show that Yvtn is SOUTH of the A303, rathr than EAST. (It is slightly SE of the curve of the bypass, but certainaly S of the original route of the A303, and S of the general trend of the road. )

RN — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupert Nichol (talk • contribs) 18:51, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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:I think I've caught all the deadlinks, but you might want to check whether any of the information can be updated e.g. from the K&A Canal Trust's new website. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 23:04, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I haven't actually finished with it yet. You'll notice that I been writing but have only dropped in a few references. I'll put in some more. There ar some areas I haven't touched on yet. Sorry it's progressing so slowly, but I doing a number of things and my real life is a bit distracting just at the minute! Actually, what distracted me tonight was the LIzzie Bennet Diaries in YouTube, and what distracted me yesterday was my son insisting we shared the Downton Abbey Christmas Special........etc etc etc Amandajm (talk) 12:33, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

:Hi Rod!

:I've just about finished, but will now have to start inserting references for all the stuff I read, but didn't put in at the time.

:You offered to take some photos. That's great! It would be particularly handy if you could talk to somebody first, so that you can perhaps use a tripod or have access to places where the public are not usually permitted to go. I don't suppose they still allow the public up into the galleries anymore as people will sue if someone falls off the edge.

:Also: landscape format is almost always the most useful in the body of an article, because it is less likely to cross the divide into the next section.

:On the other hand, close-ups that are going into a gallery (corbels, figures, single windows etc) are better vertical because they can be lined up nicely.

:Sometimes it doesn't work like that, e.g. misericords that demand to be horizontal.

So what would I like?

• A really good pic of the inside of the Chapter House.

:The best bet is to take several. A day that is cloudy but bright is best all round for an interior that has big windows. But it would also be great to see a pic of the sun streaming in.

• Details of the Chapter House stalls with some details of the little carved heads.
• There are two interesting corbels in the Chapter House stair: one is called the "Lizard Corbel" (probably a salamander) and the other is a hooded man/monk spearing a dragon.
• On either side of the door into the undercroft are largish carvings. They are either bosses or capitals. (I can't remember which) They are stylistically quite different. I would love to see good photos of those.
• The retrochoir. Wow! A high resolution image that focuses on the vista rather than the vault (i.e. shows some vault, but focuses on the foresty spaces between the columns.
• A long view of the Choir.
• A high resolution pic of the east window of the choir. The present pic doesn't show the details of the window.

:Windows often photograph best on a dull day. However, if there is a lot of light streaming in, you can sometime trick your camera by setting it on flash. It stops the lighter areas of the window bleaching out everything else.

• The misericords. You'll almost certainly need permission for that one. The finest (to my way of thinking) are the several that are humans taking on various acrobatic forms in order to support the seat.

:If you use flash on them, then all the dust that accumulates in the recesses looks white in the picture. This counteracts the proper effect of the shadows. However, if you can take them with a longish exposure, they can be digitally adjusted to some extent to make details clearer.

• Stiff leaf foliage. Details.
• The north porch. Good pic of the interior which has fascinating details.
• West door. There is already a good vertical picture of the west door. However, that small canopied carving that is directly above it is part of the central composition. I'd like a picture that includes that element. I'd also like a detail of that carving. It has been described as an "Annunciation". It appears to be a "Coronation of the Virgin".
• I hate to seem ungrateful, but your picture of the organ is too crooked to straighten!

Exterior.

• If you look at the "Precinct" gallery, you'll see that the vertical picture of the bishop's palace really doesn't work with the others. We need a vertical image where the ground level is lowish, the way it is in the other three pics.
• A more general vertical view of the Vicars'Close would also be good.
• A side view of the cathedral getting in as much of the building as possible. You'll have to be inventive. Top of the Bishop's palace? A ladder up the wall to the east of the cathedral? Low flying helicopter? Tall tree? How about a Helium balloon?
• A good shot of the central tower. Overcast days are fantastic for photographing sculptured details, but hopeless when they make the sky stark white and the stonework murky and dark. A nice day would be so lovely. It would throw all the architectural details into relief!

Well, this seems to be about three excursions! Are you very busy? :-)

:Amandajm (talk) 11:11, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

::I just straightened the picture of the organ! Amandajm (talk) 12:10, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rod

Thanks for your encouragement.

will do what I can :)

Ja2013 (talk) 18:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rodw, I could look at it, but the comments on the /GA1 page suggest that the reviewer wants to withdraw so it seems more like he may be wanting someone take over. I'm currently working on Talk:Suicide/GA1 and the, as yet unstarted, Harold A. Lafount review. If I need to take over I'm happy to do so, but I'd like to finish (reviewing, not doing) Suicide first. Pyrotec (talk) 16:49, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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Did you just do St Albans? Oh, I'm getting so tired! Would you like to do some more? One of the crucial things is to include the name of the cathedral and link it, as it is the only link to the cathedral site.

The reason why this is so time consuming is that having written the short blurb, I'm then transferring it to the Cathedral's website, with a note as to the first known organist, and at the same time sorting out the formatting problems where they occur on cathedral sites, particularly creating the heading Music' and putting it ahead of things like Library. Amandajm (talk) 11:16, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

:Oh, you did Wells! That's nice! Do what you like for a bit.... I need coffee! and I haven't got a single piece of chocolate in the house. Maybe I'll check out the very old bottle of port instead. Amandajm (talk) 11:18, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

::Yeah! It would mean changing the name of the article again.

::At this point, I haven't included all the parish church cathedrals. I know I will get rapped on the knuckles for that.

::There are a number of significant non-cathedral churches that have choirs, musical directors and so on. The Abbey, Kings College, St George's Chapel, St John's College.... I don't know how many others.....

::How do you think we should go about including them? Amandajm (talk) 11:34, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

:::It's tedious!

:::I'm just hoping that someone tidy will come along and reformat it all nicely. Some of the lists have the dates first and some have the names first, and often it is within the same cathedral's info. I know there are people out there who are just looking for useful jobs that don't require research and writing. I need a listish, formattish sort of contributor with a tidy mind. I'll have to hunt around. Amandajm (talk) 11:42, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

::::Rodw, what's the matter with you? Are you mad or what?

::::I just told you that I was looking for someone tidy and good at formatting things to fix up that nasty list!

::::So you have just revealed yourself as that sort of person exactly!

::::When you have finished your tidying and formatting at Wells Cathedral........

:::::::::::howabout you go over to that nasty list of organists?

::::::::::::::Amandajm (talk) 13:24, 1 March 2013 (UTC) ;-)

G'Day Rod! Juss bin downter ther Nash'-nul Gal'-ry Kairm'-bruh ferrer Fuedays ter see Too-Loose-Law-Treck! Amandajm (talk) 01:28, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.

Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:

1. {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sturmvogel_66}}, primarily for an array of warship GAs.
2. {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Miyagawa}}, primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
3. {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Casliber}}, due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Keilana}}, this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.

Other contributors of note include:

• {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sven Manguard}}, whose Portal:Massachusetts is the first featured portal this year. The featured portal process is one of the less well-known featured processes, and featured portals have traditionally had little impact on WikiCup scores.
• {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sasata}}, whose Mycena aurantiomarginata was the first featured article this year.
• {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Muboshgu}} and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Wizardman}}, who both claimed points for articles in the Major League Baseball tie-breakers topic, the first topic points in the competition.
• {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Toa Nidhiki05}}, who claimed for the first full good topic with the Casting Crowns studio albums topic.

Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|The C of E}}: did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...

March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!

A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 11:44, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Aaaaargh! I am totally exhausted. I think I'll ave a cheese and chutney sandwich and play some heavy metal!

Thank you for the pound sign!

Amandajm (talk) 07:58, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

{{Talkback|Template:Did you know nominations/Del Monte Kenya|ts =by Northamerica1000^(talk) 05:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)}}

Hi,

I notice that the entry has been changed in respect of geographical location-it states -not by me- that it is four miles from Dorset border. Not so-the border is the River Axe which is about half a mile from the center of Winsham vllage.

I have a few villagers comment on this error,and they were blaming me fo it!

Regards

Johnshaun9 (talk) 12:19, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

25px Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Fairfield, Stogursey at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{tl|db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 13:18, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Cheers for the kind words Rod, I am a total nOOb (to the net in general) and appreciate that someone has noticed my meagre contributions to this here behemoth!

Hillbillyholiday81 (talk) 13:00, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Don't know if you could help me Rod, I wanna install the wikilove thing, but i'm such a technical doofus i can't even get an unzip thing to work without my p.c going all strange. If you have both the time and the expertise to assist I will eternally be in your debt (for a limited period only, subject to terms and conditions).

Hillbillyholiday (talk) Thurs 14^th March

:Aah, I guess that the little heart logo appears over every users page bar ones own. I felt all left out! Apologies for wasting your time.

:Hillbillyholiday ^talk 20:19, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

::{{tps}} At {{myprefs|Misc}} there should be an item "{{MediaWiki:wikilove-enable-preference}}". Make sure that's switched on. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:45, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've just finished reviewing your interesting article on Fairfield. Could you double check the spelling of the family name 'Russell' in the first paragraph of the History section, please? The first instance is spelt 'Russel' and the second time it is spelt 'Russell' - I know that sometimes older spellings can be given differently and I can't check the offline ref for it. I didn't flag it on the DYK template as it is something very simply remedied (if necessary). Wish I could get that sort of amount for land!! {{smiley}} SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, apologies for the delayed reply, I've been in hospital for 2 weeks and not checking Wikipedia. Bristol Rock-cress is Arabis scabra. SP-KP (talk) 12:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Rodw, I've raised it Wikipedia:Media copyright questions because I don't think its correctly assigned, but I'm unsure of what it should be assigned as. To me taking a photograph of a work of art doesn't necessarily give the photographer copyright ownership any more than if I suck it in a photocopier and claimed copyright on that. It could be that the correct allocation is PD in Europe (life of painter + 70 years), PD in USA (painted prior to 1 Jan 1923), or both. I also suspect that the photographer needs to state what was done, i.e. it's the photograph of a whole picture or just part of a picture. When someone decides what the correct assignment is that image's talkpage (strictly wikipedia Commons) will need to be updated, if appropriate, with the correct assignment(s). Pyrotec (talk) 12:27, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

That is brilliant!

I'm just trying to figure out the best way to photograph the misericords, knowing that the seats don't turn up very well, and that flash is not the ideal way of photographing them because all the dust in the crevices turns white and reverses the effect .

Basically, you don't need to see the misericords. It's only the camera that needs to see them. So theoretically, the camera can be put on the floor, provided it's angled right and there is a source of illumination.

If there if a yellowish cast to the colour, or the framing is not ideal, I can fix all that stuff easily with Photoshop.

Have a lovely Easter!

Amandajm (talk) 11:28, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Giano&curid=1144169&diff=546584350&oldid=546584201]  Giano  18:28, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I think we are going to have the lose the reference to an E being a tribute to Elizabth I. I have searched high and low for the reference, and have come to the conclusion it must have been in a children's architecture book that I had years and years ago (sad isn't it, some kids read Gianni Rodari and Enid Blyton, I read architecture in simple terms - obviously too simple). I have just found this simply explained site ([http://www.britainexpress.com/architecture/elizabethan.htm]) which thinking about it sensibly is probably correct. I see there's a reference to such a tribute on the Wikipedia Burghley House page, but although there are multiple references at the end of the sentence, the three I could check (including Pevsner's Northamptonshire) don't support it. Perhaps it's just one of those nice British myths.  Giano  08:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 14:20, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

We are halfway through round two. Pool A sees the strongest competition, with five out of eight of its competitors scoring over 100, and Pool H is lagging, with half of its competitors yet to score. WikiCup veterans lead overall; Pool A's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sturmvogel_66}} (2010's winner) leads overall, with poolmate {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Miyagawa}} (a finalist in 2011 and 2012) not far behind. Pool F's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Casliber}} (a finalist in 2010, 2011 and 2012) is in third. The top two scorers in each pool, as well as the next highest 16 scorers overall, will progress to round three at the end of April.

Today has seen a number of Easter-themed did you knows from WikiCup participants, and March has seen collaboration from contestants with WikiWomen's History Month. It's great to see the WikiCup being used as a locus of collaboration; if you know of any collaborative efforts going on, or want to start anything up, please feel free to use the WikiCup talk page to help find interested editors. As well as fostering collaboration, we're also seeing the Cup encouraging the improvement of high-importance articles through the bonus point system. Highlights from the last month include GAs on physicist Niels Bohr ({{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Hawkeye7}}), on the European hare ({{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Cwmhiraeth}}), on the constellation Circinus ({{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Keilana}} and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Casliber}}) and on the Third Epistle of John ({{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Cerebellum}}). All of these subjects were covered on at least 50 Wikipedias at the beginning of the year and, subsequently, each contribution was awarded at least three times as many points as normal.

Wikipedians who enjoy friendly competition may be interested in participating in April's wikification drive. While wikifying an article is typically not considered "significant work" such that it can be claimed for WikiCup points, such gnomish work is often invaluable in keeping articles in shape, and is typically very helpful for new writers who may not be familiar with formatting norms.

A quick reminder: now, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 22:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rodw, hope that this message finds you well! Spent some of my Easter at Tyntesfield, and have since come back and spent much of my "leisure time" rewriting the article. I was about to go off and get it assessed, and then noticed that you assessed it originally as part of WikiProject Somerset. Can I ask a favour and get you to have a look at it and give me some initial feedback? Thank You! Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 08:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

25px Hello! Your submission of List of National Trust properties in Somerset at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! NinaGreen (talk) 23:01, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rod,

How kind of you to welcome me. I see you are Somerset related - that can't be a coincidence.

New to wikipedia, although not to wikis, treading carefully and sticking to what I know for the minute, I was interested to read about the Somerset project. I might lend a hand.

--Timbow001 (talk) 09:41, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

To be honest Rod, I'm on the point of failing this nomination, because it seems like I'm finding problems with every citation I check. Can you go through yourself and check that the sources actually support what it's claimed they do, and aren't copy and paste jobbies? Malleus Fatuorum 22:31, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rod. Perhaps I should have picked up the problem with the opening sentence earlier, but I assumed that it was such an obvious flaw that it would be noticed and changed. I'm looking for constructive engagement on the talk page about it, rather than a simple reversion. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:03, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

:Isn't this all fixed now? Malleus Fatuorum 20:38, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

::I believe so.— Rod ^talk 20:41, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I thought I would drop you a note to say that I mentioned in this month's issue of Ichthus. If you wish to receive the full content in future, please drop me a note on my talk page.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:03, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Hallo, I've reviewed the article for GA and it's almost ready. I'd suggest extending the lead to reflect the sections of the article, and to mark the source used for each paragraph, but otherwise it's a delightful and well written article altogether. Not sure if the GA has transcribed itself properly to the talk page for some reason. Oh, and I think the credit should be shared among several longstanding contributors to the article! All the best --- Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:27, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

::Well done on driving it through Rod! Thanks to Chiswick Chap too for the fairly easy ride.  Giano  20:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I've started the GA review for Barrington Court. It looks quite close to promotion as-is, but I wanted your thoughts on a few quibbly points. Thanks for your work on it! -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:41, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

See Talk:Combe Down Tunnel Tabletop (talk) 02:56, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah..er..yes, well; of course what I actually meant was......  Giano  20:35, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

:Hi Rod. The second para of George Abraham Gibbs, 1st Baron Wraxall: 1907-1931 begins: "While working for his father..." Is that intentional, or should it say "While working for his father-on-law..."? It seems that his father-in-law was "Rt Hon Walter Hume Long, MP (later Viscount Long of Wraxall)"? But again, neither claim seems to be supported in the Steven Terry source given at he end of that para. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rod. I have replied to your query about Lytes Cary on my talkpage. Cheers. Stronach (talk) 11:20, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

:Again, I've replied on my page. I think we have conclusive proof it's post 1900 ... Mind you, as it's OR, can you use it on the page? 19:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

We are a week into Round 3, but it is off to a flying start, with {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sven Manguard}} claiming for the high-importance Portal:Sports and Portal:Geography (which are the first portals ever awarded bonus points in the WikiCup) and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Cwmhiraeth}} claiming for a did you know of sea, the highest scoring individual did you know article ever submitted for the WikiCup. Round 2 saw very impressive scores at close; first place {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Casliber}} and second place {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sturmvogel_66}} both scored over 1000 points; a feat not seen in Round 2 since 2010. This, in part, has been made possible by the change in the bonus points rules, but is also testament to the quality of the competition this year. Pool C and Pool G were most competitive, with three quarters of participants making it to Round 3, while Pool D was the least, with only the top two scorers making it through. The lowest qualifying score was 123, significantly higher than last year's 65, 2011's 41 or even 2010's 100.

The next issue of The Signpost is due to include a brief update on the current WikiCup, comparing it to previous years' competitions. This may be of interest to current WikiCup followers, and may help bring some more new faces into the community. We would also like to note that this round includes an extra competitor to the 32 advertised, who has been added to a random pool. This extra inclusion seems to have been the fairest way to deal with a small mistake made before the beginning of this round, but should not affect the competition in a large way. If you have any questions or concerns about this, please feel free to contact one of the judges.

A rules clarification: content promoted between rounds can be claimed in the round after the break, but not the round before. The case in point is content promoted on 29/30 April, which may be claimed in this round. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 16:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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:Hi again. In case you've not been following that, I've started a new discussion at Talk:Bristol/Bath to South Coast Study#Proposed reinstatement of content, per the closing suggestion made at DRV. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 10:03, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I thought I would drop you a note to say that I mentioned an article you worked on in this month's issue of Ichthus. If you wish to receive the full content in future, please drop me a note on my talk page.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds22:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 142nd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:55, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Rod. I am glad to be reviewing the article Clevedon Court you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. 20px This process may take up to 7 days. I have found a number of issues which need to be addressed. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:13, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tourist attractions in Somerset until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:01, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rod - Thanks for looking over Template:Did you know nominations/Grand Turk Lighthouse, Turks & Caicos National Museum. I think I've taken care of the issues. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

You are invited to the Bristol Wiki Meetup which will take place at The Commercial Rooms, 43-45 Corn Street, Bristol BS1 1HT on Sunday 28 July 2013 from 1.00 pm. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Bristol topics. Bring your laptop if you like and use the free Wifi or just bring yourself. Even better, bring a friend! Click the link for full details. Looking forward to seeing you. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Some months ago it was. Still feeling my way around Wikipedia, I created an article as as much as anything to get familiar with the procedure and the syntax and all the conventions. Probably so obscure that it might not meet notability criteria, but here: Alfred of Spain. would you like to glance at it for me? In particular I don't understand the note at the bottom of the yellow block which reads 'Warning: This page should probably be located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/"Alfred of Spain" (move)'. Only if you have a moment.

Thanks, Timbow001 (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, it is a fair presumption that they are all one and the same Alfred of Spain because Domesday is the source of all those references and in fact nothing is known of the man other than what is in Domesday (plus a bit of archaeology). It was because of several of these village articles referring to him with 'article doesn't exist' that I thought I would fill in the blank.

I can't very well just copy pages of Domesday and call it a wikipedia article, I will find one or two more things to say about him and take your advice with the edits. If it doesn't meet notability criteria well tough, it's a practice run as far as I am concerned.

Much obliged to you for your help Timbow001 (talk) 19:20, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

::Give me ten minutes to finish my own edits then do what you will. Timbow001 (talk) 19:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

:::done Timbow001 (talk) 20:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

::::ok ta! Timbow001 (talk) 20:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)