User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish#Clarification

Who is that child again, pinging nice people stupidly? I'd ask Materialscientist but they rarely answer. Drmies (talk) 16:29, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:I think it's the evolution of the adding-one-character vandalbot. Luckily, we'll have IP masking soon and the community will vote to disable IP editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:30, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

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It seems clear to me that 61.101.80.201 is evading the block on 58.99.101.165. Asking for your help here since in addition to 58.99.101.165 you also blocked at least {{Logid|169802821|two}} {{Logid|169802804|other}} sock IPs previously. Same targeted pages, same complaints about too many references [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Historical_Jesus&diff=prev&oldid=1291641072] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jesus&diff=prev&oldid=1294076184], honestly the editing history speaks for itself. Previous activity suggest they have a sizeable pool of IPs available, and given that at least one of them was {{Logid|86024953|previously blocked by a bot for being a proxy}} they may well be using some kind of high-end VPN/proxy service. However even though I don't expect blocks to stop them it should help keep the rate down a bit. Anyway if you would do the needful here I'd appreciate it. 184.152.65.118 (talk) 23:22, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Sure looks like them. Blocked for a week. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks, 184.152.65.118 (talk) 23:34, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi SFR. Yeah, so some related blocks came up in the Bbb23 AN thread. I know you where within policy to declare these editors as socks and block on site. However, considering the community seems to view the very similar blocks of {{noping|Zheeh}} and {{noping|Elephant7812}} as... okay, really BITEy and horrible, if I'm reading consensus correctly, I was wondering if maybe you'd reconsider your block of {{noping|7goldfishglory}}? And maybe leaving a note on {{noping|CG52110}}'s talkpage saying that you don't believe they were in control of nine plus accounts so they actually have a chance of being unblocked? Honestly, this far along, I don't think either editor is coming back, so the risk of any disruption is pretty much nothing if you do unblock them. Of course, if they do and start spamming Ironland stuff again, then you can punt them back into the sun and it'll take like 30 seconds of your time. But it's looking like the community doesn't like it when admins no warning blocks fans of something for making a few overenthusiastic edits. Thanks for considering this, and you don't mind me bringing this up on your talkpage instead of the AN thread. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 06:15, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:In case you're wondering, my interest in this is mostly stemming from the fact that I got my Wiki-start as a kid by making a few pretty crappy edits to a (now deleted) article about a video game I liked. If I'd been no-warning blocked for them, or banned, I'd probably never have returned. I mean, I hope by saying that I suddenly haven't turned you forever off the idea of unblocking them ;0) but anyways. Just letting you know why I've taken an interest, so you don't have to go all CYA mode again. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 06:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{u|CG52110}} kinda screwed the pooch by not answering {{u|Yamla}}'s pretty basic question about what accounts they had been using. At this point they're well into SO territory, so a request saying "I haven't been socking, and won't use additional accounts" would probably zip through. As for {{u|7goldfishglory}}, they could just request an unblock at all, or any admin could unblock if they felt so inclined. I just don't see a lot of utility in unblocking someone after a year when there's no indication they're interested. Again, any admin that disagrees can just unblock. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Yeah, not answering isn't a great look...but I mean they kinda sorta gave that answer in the first place, and nobody believed them. Why on earth would they try again? You're probably right that they aren't coming back, and who could blame them? And I suppose you don't see the utility in unblocking them, and I still don't see the utility in blocking a good faith editor just because they try to write a draft on a trending pop culture thing, when they've already promised to leave the area alone. Practically, however, there are three possible benefits - if they have their email turned on or check back, they realize that they can come back, it allows them to have a clean start in a few years when they're more older and more mature without evading a block (because there's no guarantee they they'll even remember their password to this one then), and it means nobody can bring it up as an example of a terrible SFR block. Or, they can, but you undoing it kind of stops that in its tracks. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 16:09, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::{{tq|but I mean they kinda sorta gave that answer in the first place, and nobody believed them.}} They had unblock requests declined by multiple checkusers, so I'm going to AGF that their investigations didn't match what was being said by the editor. I also understand concerns that this was a number of different editors independently creating the draft, but that doesn't hold up when you can review the deleted contribs.

{{textdiff|Ironland is a micronation created by the Youtuber _magnify.{{Cite AV media |url=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RJf7Xanr3ns |title=I Started a Micronation |language=en |access-date=2024-07-05 |via=www.youtube.com}} Ironland is a 12 foot circle around the Flat Iron Sculpture in Asheville, North Carolina. The nation was officially founded on June 26, 2024, and was originally created to be a learning aid to _magnify in discussing micronations during a video. Despite this, it fulfills all requirements to be a real micronation, and the founder treats it as such.

::::The first Ironland embassy was announced by _magnify on July 3, 2024 in another Youtube video, and is located at the Dolly Parton Statue in Sevierville, Tennessee.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}} The total number of embassies globally, along with their locations, remain unknown. This is due to the fact that during the same video, _magnify encouraged viewers to create their own embassies by simply placing a clothes iron on top of a printout of the nation's flag. Despite this, any embassies would be legally invalid. This is because an embassy requires the consent of the country it is being hosted in, a fact which _magnify openly discusses.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}}

::::|Ironland is a micronation created by the Youtuber _magnify.{{Cite AV media |url=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RJf7Xanr3ns |title=I Started a Micronation |language=en |access-date=2024-07-05 |via=www.youtube.com}} Ironland is a 12 foot circle around the Flat Iron Sculpture in Asheville, North Carolina. The nation was officially founded on June 26, 2024, and was originally created to be a learning aid to _magnify in discussing micronations during a video. Despite this, it fulfills all requirements to be a real micronation, and the founder treats it as such.

::::The first Ironland embassy was announced by _magnify on July 3, 2024 in another Youtube video, and is located at the Dolly Parton Statue in Sevierville, Tennessee.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}} The total number of embassies globally, along with their locations, remain unknown. This is due to the fact that during the same video, _magnify encouraged viewers to create their own embassies by simply placing a clothing iron on top of a printout of the nation's flag. Despite this, any embassies would be legally invalid. This is because an embassy requires the consent of the country it is being hosted in, a fact which _magnify openly discusses.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}}}}

{{textdiff|Ironland is a micronation created by the Youtuber _magnify.{{Cite AV media |url=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RJf7Xanr3ns |title=I Started a Micronation |language=en |access-date=2024-07-05 |via=www.youtube.com}} Ironland is a 12 foot circle around the Flat Iron Sculpture in Asheville, North Carolina. The nation was officially founded on June 26, 2024, and was originally created to be a learning aid to _magnify in discussing micronations during a video. Despite this, it fulfills all requirements to be a real micronation, and the founder treats it as such.

::::The first Ironland embassy was announced by _magnify on July 3, 2024 in another Youtube video, and is located at the Dolly Parton Statue in Sevierville, Tennessee.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}} The total number of embassies globally, along with their locations, remain unknown. This is due to the fact that during the same video, _magnify encouraged viewers to create their own embassies by simply placing a clothing iron on top of a printout of the nation's flag. Despite this, any embassies would be legally invalid. This is because an embassy requires the consent of the country it is being hosted in, a fact which _magnify openly discusses.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}}|Ironland is a micronation created by the YouTuber _magnify.{{Cite AV media |url=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RJf7Xanr3ns |title=I Started a Micronation |language=en |access-date=2024-07-05 |via=www.youtube.com}} Ironland is a 12 foot circle around an iron statue. The nation was officially founded on June 26, 2024, and was originally created to be a learning aid to _magnify in discussing micronations during a video. Despite this, it fulfills all requirements to be a real micronation, and the founder treats it as such.

::::Ironland was founded in Asheville, North Carolina and is a 12 foot circle around the around the Flat Iron Sculpture.

::::Ironland was officially founded on June 26, 2024 and was created to be a learning aid. Ironland did meet the requirements of the montevido conventionOn June 26, 2024

::::The first Ironland embassy was announced by @_magnify on July 3, 2024 in another Youtube video, and is located at the Dolly Parton Statue in Sevierville, Tennessee.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}} The total number of embassies globally, along with their locations, remain unknown. This is due to the fact that during the same video, @_magnify encouraged viewers to create their own embassies by simply placing a clothing iron on top of a printout of the nation's flag. Despite this, any embassies would be legally invalid. This is because an embassy requires the consent of the country it is being hosted in, a fact which @_magnify openly discusses.{{Citation needed|date=July 2024}}}}

::::Here are textdiffs across multiple creations of the draft by different editors at the time of creation. Now I suppose it's possible that there were a bunch of editors showing up recreating a draft with the exact same prose by coincidence, but it seems more likely there was either socking or meatpuppetry at play. If someone wants to be unblocked after taking part in that, though, I don't think requiring an unblock request that says {{tq|I understand what was wrong about how I was handling that. I wont (create multiple accounts/coordinate off-wiki to bypass deletion policies) in the future.}} is a wild ask. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:04, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

My source is the OECD (its literally linked) and median equivalized income by country is median income, ergo relevant to the median income page. Also I was not ban evading, you literally just made it up (however i'm using a different device currently) 98.150.89.19 (talk) 22:30, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:I suggest you create an account, because your editing is functionally identical to Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Demographics vandal and you will likely continue to be blocked. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:39, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AStephen_Bassett_%28ufologist%29&diff=1294661315&oldid=1294642109 These versions] contain a real mobile telephone number. Someone claiming to be an article subject left it on the talkpage for "confirmation". Please and thank you! JFHJr (㊟) 02:23, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:All set. Please use email next time if you can. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:39, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you! Will do. JFHJr (㊟) 16:12, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Do you think this is fully under the ARBPIA topic? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 11:56, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:I'm sure parts of it are, but probably not the entire article. I would say it depends on exactly what the edits are about. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Institute_for_the_Study_of_Global_Antisemitism_and_Policy&diff=prev&oldid=1295205214 This edit] is related, {{tq|"Foreign Infiltration: Georgetown University, Qatar, and the Muslim Brotherhood" which alleges a multi-decade campaign by Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood influencing American foreign policy through Georgetown University.}} seems pretty related. It contains {{tq|Normalization of Islamist Ideology Georgetown’s key centers function as platforms promoting political Islam, minimizing the threat of Islamist extremism, and advancing anti-Israel narratives. Affiliations include extensive networks linked to Islamist movements and entities associated with the Muslim Brotherhood... Georgetown’s graduates frequently report hostility toward pro-Western viewpoints and heightened sympathy for extreme anti-Israel positions... The Muslim Brotherhood is committed to destroying democracies, including the United States and Israel, and to replacing them with a distorted version of an Islamist caliphate.}} which is directly Arab/Israel conflict. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:03, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::Ugh, partial are always so hard to enforce on talk pages. Thanks though. Doug Weller talk 14:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I agree, but I try to look at the other side, where we're already cutting off a pretty decent chunk of stuff for new/ip editors, so trying to let them contribute where they can at the edges is probably worth the effort. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:39, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I take the point, but also it's not unusual for them to be SPAs. Doug Weller talk 15:31, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Oh, I know. There's really not a good way to handle it that's fair to everyone. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

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style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Your recent mass blocking of sock accounts was a great action that I respect greatly. User:Tishreen07 Is who I'm talking about. Tankishguy :)(: (talk) 15:44, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you kindly. I appreciate it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:15, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi SFR, I was wondering if you could offer some advice on how I might appeal my 20-month-old topic ban, specifically in relation to discussion. There's an open discussion at WP:DRN#Circumcision which I'd like to contribute to. Would it be possible to amend the ban so I can participate in such discussions? Do you think that's a good idea? Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:47, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:As far as appealing or adjusting the topic ban goes, WP:AN is the venue. As far as it being a good idea, it's hard to say. You have quite the block log and some recidivism issues. I don't know how it would turn out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:15, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::Could I not discuss this one-to-one with the admin who imposed the TB? I've respected the ban for almost two years now, so I don't see how it would be unreasonable. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:19, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::The short answer about the discussion is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_recall/Bbb23&diff=prev&oldid=1294241940 no]. I'm not saying that an appeal is unreasonable, just that I don't know how it will turn out with your history. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:29, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Would it be too much to ask if you could put in a good word? ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:47, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I'm not familiar enough with your editing to express an opinion. I believe our only substantial interaction is when I blocked you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:31, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::That was a pageblock, as I recall. If I decide to ask WP:AN, how should I go about wording it? At the moment, I'm not necessarily interested in editing articles covered by the TB, so I don't intend to ask for it to be fully lifted. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 23:44, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Given this area is seeing heightened disruption because Donald Trump has apparently said something, the last thing we need is to risk the addition of more. I would certainly be making that case in opposing any appeal. There are millions of other articles to work on. Bon courage (talk) 03:33, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::{{u|Bon courage}}, you've misunderstood what I'd intend to appeal. I'm not appealing my ban in mainspace (as you say, millions of other articles to work on), just in discussion space. So there'd be absolutely no potential for disruption caused. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 03:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::I worry about enabling disruptive editors. Since that DRN is obviously going nowhere (it's only useful function is as a tar pit to bog down the disruptors) I'm surprised you want to warp in as an outside editor. Bon courage (talk) 03:54, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::I'd like to comment on some of the inconsistencies I've noticed in the application of WP:MEDRS. I also think there should be another RfC, which I'd like to make the case for. Far from enabling any disruption, I'd like to volunteer my time on finding common ground, without having to involve myself in the subject matter directly. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 03:58, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::::Let's just say my concern is not quelled. Bon courage (talk) 04:02, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::::I'm not sure what your concern is. We've been able to come to an understanding with one another via email in the past, on two occasions. I'm not going to be making edit requests if that's what you're worried about. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 04:08, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello there, in November last year you applied a Eastern Europe topic ban for the user {{user|Mhorg}}. They recently blanked their talk page which came up in my watchlist, and as I had not seen them around much following the TB, I looked at their recent contributions and saw that one of their recent [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keith_Kellogg&diff=prev&oldid=1293400766 edits] was to the Keith Kellogg article, an article that is significantly related to the topic, given the individuals involvement with Ukraine and Russia. Given that the topic ban is broadly construed, would editing that article be considered a violation of their topic ban? TylerBurden (talk) 21:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:I would suggest that you ask them to self-revert and remind them of the topic ban. If that doesn't prove constructive please bring it to AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Seconded. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:58, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I didn't think a link to Wikiquote could be a violation of the topic ban. I will do a self-revert. Mhorg (talk) 11:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:18, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

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Thanks, Raladic (talk) 00:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey there,

I just wanted to send you a personal note regarding my comment where I mentioned I believe you should be a party to the case.

I much appreciate and respect your judgement and expertise and have seen you appear in many discussions and cases at AE, so I just feel your expertise is better used to give an account of the experience of what some of the administrative side in this area is are as a party in this case, rather than being an arbiter as I think you have had more exposure/experience in this particular topic area firsthand compared to the members of the current Arbitration Committee.

I compare this to my chat with @Daniel case, who has been one of the administrators that has regularly helped revdel transphobic vandalism, when I needed help as part of my sidegig doing WP:CVU hunting (where I've curtailed many a vandal, got pages protected and found socks lurking in the shadows and working with SPI), and I mentioned may have unique insight to provide to ArbCom from that perspective on the "cost" that vandalism and disruption puts on our community as editorship, it is at the end of the day what drove me into taking my wikibreak and going into wiki-retirement due to the mental toll it took on me.

So, I just wanted to clarify that my comment was not about my trust in your ability to judge as an Arbiter, as much as I think you have more value for this extremely complex case to bring as a party.

I don't object to you deciding to moving from party to Arbiter if you think that is a better place for you, but I just figured this might help explain why I thought you would be a valuable party, given you history in your administrative capacity in many of the cases that have been at the core of the issue at heart. Raladic (talk) 04:13, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! I hope you are well, sadly I've only brought you a pest & not cherry pie. Return of multiple account abuser (mentioned most recently here) making Subtle/Silly edits, this time as UAreNuts2068 & SomethingWentWrong103. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_Why!&action=history Messing with Super Why!] & [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victor_och_Natten&action=history Victor och Natten again]. For confirmation you can see both those accounts previously making vandalism edits along with their other, now banned, personas. Also their usual multiple edits, one of their sandbox the other on Victor och Natten's article, to boost their post count high enough to be able to post on protected pages. All leads back to banned Dusty8686. Could you please block these two before they cause more damage & waste people's time? As always, many thanks for your time & effort! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 16:19, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:... & another one, Y8686, same silly edit to "If I Had $1,000,000". They really need a better hobby! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 16:24, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

::Sorted, and a bunch of others, too. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:47, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! They're multiplying like Tribbles! :) Thank-you kindly for disposing of them swiftly! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 18:27, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey there. I see you've deleted my Sandbox, and I believe someone has blocked my IP address. I did not do anything wrong; Could you please explain why you deleted my Sandbox, and give the reason for the blocking? Thanks! Long-live-ALOPUS (talk) 11:24, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:I deleted your sandbox because it was a violation of WP:ECR that had nothing to do with the encyclopedia. I left your userpage since I'd already warned you and deleted one of your pages and didn't feel it would be constructive to go any further. As for he block, I don't see a block affecting your account, and your IP address doesn't appear to be blocked. From your postings on VPT and the Teahouse it doesn't appear to be an issue with blocks or Wikipedia. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:05, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

::Okay... sorry for that. Thanks. Long-live-ALOPUS (talk) 10:39, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

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Stravinsky pictured on his birthday + Vienna pics - but too many who died -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

too many died, see my story and listen to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hG8Zd0xLZg Comfort ye] (sung in German) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:I'm more of a fan of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezoOnI95BpE Comfort Eagle]. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:45, 18 June 2025 (UTC)