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Sincerely, Alenoach (talk) [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alenoach&action=edit§ion=new&preload=Template:Welcome_to_Wikipedia/user-talk_preload (Leave me a message)] 12:27, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

minor

hey I noticed you marked one of your edits as a minor edit. minor edits should only be marked if they are minor things such as fixing typos, grammar, etc. just letting you know! Gaismagorm (talk) 12:10, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

:you can refer to this wikipedia page if you are ever unsure Help:Minor edit Gaismagorm (talk) 12:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

:Riiight! I went back to fix up some of my errors before I noticed your message and I think I marked it as the same thing. I'll try to pay attention to not mess up again next time. I didn't know editing an article would be this cool. The Mining Pickaxe (talk) 12:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

::don't worry about it, enjoy editing! Gaismagorm (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

DDLC meme

Thank you for your edits, but we need a reliable source to add information to articles. Unfortunately, YouTube is not considered a usable source except for under very specific circumstances. Thank you, and happy editing! QuicoleJR (talk) 14:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

:Okay, just humor me for a second. It's not like something getting popular is the most scientific or measurable of things, it also isn't determined if a website or the creator posts about it; it's not like a switch where before any official source said something about it, it wasn't popular. Now, the video I cited in my edit had 14.5 million views. I could cite more videos that have 100s of thousands of views. If that isn't/wasn't popular, or a meme, in a game with 10 million downloads, don't know what is. I don't know if this meme spread outside of YouTube (to Discord, Reddit, ect.) because I wasn't around when the game became popular. Anyway, I just think that this should be one of the exceptions where a video from YouTube is fine.

:Let's say there was a perfect source for this. What would it be? Right above where I tried to edit, a tweet from the creator was cited for a (probably) less popular meme about the game, so is it something like that? Would citing more videos like the one I tried yesterday help?

:Sorry I couldn't reply yesterday it was way too late and I was very sleep deprived. The Mining Pickaxe (talk) 09:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

::I understand your concern, and the rules about this sometimes frustrate me too. To add the meme, we would need it to be discussed in a secondary source that is reliable. This could be a news source like IGN or the New York Times, it could be a book published by a publisher with a good reputation, it could be a page of a magazine, etc. The information you mention cited from a tweet is an exception, since we can use a tweet from the developer as a primary source to show that he is mad about his character being used without permission, although it could probably be removed. I understand that this can be quite annoying, but it's one of the site's main rules. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Reference formatting

I noticed that some of your references were not well formatted. There is actually a way to automatically format references by only providing their URL, which requires less work and works well most of the time. Please check this link or this one to see how. Alenoach (talk) 12:40, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

:I've just copied how others have cited their sources on this site; I went to a Good Article, looked at one of the sourced and I've been using the format ever since. You can fix it in the article on MMLU if you want, but don't do it with the automatic one because it becomes unchangeable when editing, unless you switch to source editing. I know for sure that the paper for the benchmark was cited differently before, so yeah, if you find it unsatisfactory, change it. The Mining Pickaxe (talk) 15:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

::I see what you mean, but it is actually not a result of the automatic formatting. It's because some people use a special format called "list-defined references", specifically the variant in which references are in the "reflist". But when doing this, references are not displayed well on the VisualEditor and can only be edited in source mode. I personally also avoid that format. Using the method I described should not lead to this problem though. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MMLU&diff=1284274723&oldid=1284245510 formatted the references] in the article on MMLU. Alenoach (talk) 16:23, 6 April 2025 (UTC)