User talk:The Other Karma

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MDPI is not WP:MEDRS-compliant. Never was, never will be. tgeorgescu (talk) 11:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

:This is new, I can't just use any scientific literature, especially Systematic Reviews?

:May I ask, where exactly do I find the exclusion of MDPI on the linked website, I could not find anything with CTRL+F so that I can do better in the future? The Other Karma (talk) 12:08, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

::A place to start looking is WP:RSP. Generally, it is difficult to accept medical reviews which are not indexed for MEDLINE. See WP:MEDRS how to check if those are indexed for it. tgeorgescu (talk) 12:14, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

:::Ah, I see, it was a bit complicated to find out how to do that. In the future, I will check medical sources to see if they are in MEDLINE or not. The Other Karma (talk) 12:33, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

If I was you, I'd revert this edit, with a sincere apology, before someone decides to report the edit summary at WP:ANI. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effects_of_pornography_on_young_people&curid=60885580&diff=1185725805&oldid=1185676550] Either that, or expect to have to provide clear and unambiguous evidence for both any supposed 'hoax' and any 'vandalism' involved - which will at minimum involve first taking the time to find out what the words actually mean, since per WP:AGF, an per our recent discussion on the article talk page, I am going to have to assume that you don't. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:45, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

:I truly appreciate your advice and your AGF! However, I assure you that I stand firmly behind all the claims made in this article.
(Since that is one of my core values, especially in such a topic)
Be assured that I always read the rules first before I change something according to a rule.
Hoax vandalism is according to WP:VAND:
"Deliberately adding falsities to articles,"
An example from Cmk21 last edit would be adding this [https://www.jmir.org/2023/1/e43116 source] to the motivation section, which doesn't include anything about motivation.
Blanking Vandalism is according to WP:VAND:
"Removing encyclopedic content without any reason,"
An [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effects%20of%20pornography%20on%20young%20people&diff=prev&oldid=1185593717 example] is the removal of the experience section, where no reason is provided.{{pb}}May I ask why, someone would decide to report my edit to WP:ANI? The Other Karma (talk) 18:14, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

::Suit yourself. Don't complain that you weren't warned. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:18, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

File:Information icon4.svg There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

You have been indefinitely partial-blocked from article space (=from editing articles), based on the comments by myself and others in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=1199331083#Competence_in_the_English_language. this ANI discussion]. Note that you can still edit all pages that are not articles - talkpages, noticeboards, etc. However, as has been suggested in the discussion, it might work better for you to edit the Wikipedia in your native language instead. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{tlx|unblock|2=reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bishonen | tålk 20:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC).

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing the English Wikipedia. See comments by myself and others in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=1200158127#The_Other_Karma_is_now_demanding_that_content_they_added_to_the_article_not_be_removed this ANI sub-thread]. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{tlx|unblock|2=reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bishonen | tålk 22:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC).

The top-posting and lack of chronology on this page has been very confusing, for reviewing admins and others. To fix that, I have moved up {{u|Mathglot}}'s January 2024 comment from the foot of the page, to which it had travelled (through no fault of Mathglot's), to this spot, and added a couple of headers. Bishonen | tålk 17:34, 9 March 2025 (UTC).

The Other Karma: well, things have gone from bad to worse. I'm sorry that happened, and I was hoping it wouldn't, but I have to agree with the blocking administrator and with other calls to further restrict your editing. In the end, it was due to your own responses at AN/I and elsewhere that tipped the balance, where simple silence probably would have avoided it. At this point, you have limited options if you want to come back and edit again, but as a first step, I strongly advise you to just forget about Wikipedia for a while, and go do things you enjoy in real life. Note that an indefinite block is not necessarily permanent, and when the time is right (not now!) you can appeal your block, but I would wait several months at least before you try that.

Please note that as bad as the situation is now, it can get worse: you could lose the ability to edit your talk page; you could be community-banned from Wikipedia which is a lot harder to come back from than an indefinite block; and you could be globally banned from all Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects. So if you are interested in coming back, you must at all costs avoid making things worse: please make sure to continue to comply with all Wikipedia policies, procedures, and admin requests. Don't use this Talk page to complain about anything or anybody or to argue your block. Use this page only to make or prepare a block appeal (but not yet!) and to respond to admins and to a limited extent to other editors on topics permitted to you here on your Talk page. Asking for pertinent clarification such as the terms of your block is permitted, but be sure not to relitigate, complain, or argue about your block; that will get you nowhere except losing your Talk page privileges. Don't use any other account to try to evade the block, and don't ask anyone else to add stuff to Wikipedia on your behalf.

If and when you decide to appeal your block, it's crucial to demonstrate understanding of the reason for your block and how to avoid the same patterns that led to it; it's not about apology so you can skip that. Providing evidence of understanding is the best support for an unblock request, and a good way to provide that is to continue to edit on other Wikipedias, showing that you can do that without falling into the same patterns again and without being blocked. An interesting opportunity for you might be at Simple Wikipedia, which is in simple English, but it also carries some risk for you. If you do well there and avoid the old patterns, you could use that as supporting evidence for an unblock. However, if you repeat the patterns and become blocked there as well, then it would grievously hurt your chances for a successful unblock appeal here. I wanted to mention Simple Wikipedia in order to provide you with all the possibilities, but I honestly don't know if I should recommend you try it or not. One of the main issues I've identified to you more than once is a lack of self-awareness of your English skills or the effects of your editing on others; if that continues at Simmple, it could be more risky than it's worth. Only you can decide. A less risky approach would be just to continue your editing at de-wiki: {{userxx|de|The Other Karma}}.

If you respond below, please be sure to stay narrowly on topic; don't mention any article or editor or what happened in the ANI thread or elsewhere; the best response may be silence unless you have a specific question about something I've raised. If you have a very specific, on-topic question about the nature of your block after having followed the links and read WP:BLOCK you may respond to the blocking admin at the section above, but I discourage you from doing so unless there is truly something about blocking policy or remedies that you don't understand; above all, don't ask why you were blocked or argue the point, that's already been explained. Please don't misunderstand this list of "dont's"—I'm not telling you what to do, just advising you how to avoid making things worse; you're free to ignore any of my advice if you wish to. Good luck! Mathglot (talk) 00:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|decline=I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

• the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
• the block is no longer necessary because you:
• #understand what you have been blocked for,
• #will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
• #will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

|1=I would like to request to be unblocked. The reasons for my block given by others were: insufficient English skills to write a Wikipedia article, and that I did not want any text changed or things deleted. I understand that this was a problem and I'm sorry, the proof are my translations de:Didn't I Say to Make My Abilities Average in the Next Life?!, de:TempleOS, de:Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory, and de:Cyber Kill Chain, where I was able to show that such conflicts no longer occur when I translate from enWp to deWp, and write texts with English sources where I need to be able to understand the sources, plus several admins and editors, notably Ley Loy, Seddon, Anticomposite, and others from the Wikipedia:Discord can confirm that I can speak and use English fluently.{{pb}}Also, pages where I was the main author were changed and content was deleted, namely de:Dark Mode, and de:Temple OS and I didn't care, unfortunately I couldn't show more examples of deletion because normally no one has to delete content i added. As to why I'm coming back, there's no particular reason, I just wanted to give it a try a year after I was blocked. {{pb}}This unblocking request is based on Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks, and Mathglot's suggestions, with those and my deWP additions I have shown that I follow instructions and policies. The Other Karma (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2025 (UTC)}}

@Voorts, thank you for your time, could you be so kind as to explain to me in more detail how you came to this conclusion, which I least expected? Was there a technical error where the message did not go through?

In my opinion, I have met the points:

Understand why you were blocked/address the reason for your block:

The reasons for my block given by others were: insufficient knowledge of English to write a Wikipedia article, and that I didn't want text changed or things deleted. that are the titles of the ANIs.

Will not cause further harm or disruption/block not necessary to prevent harm or disruption to Wikipedia, and instead will make useful contributions:

''The proof is my translations de:Didn't I Say to Make My Abilities Average in the Next Life?!, de:TempleOS, de:Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory and de:Cyber Kill Chain, where I was able to show that such conflicts no longer occur when I translate from enWp to deWp and write texts with English sources where I need to be able to understand the sources. Also, several admins and editors, especially Ley Loy, Seddon, Anticomposite and others from the Wikipedia:Discord, can confirm that I can speak and use English fluently.

Also, pages where I was the main author were changed and content deleted, namely de:Dark Mode and de:Temple OS and I didn't care, unfortunately I can't show more examples of deletions because usually no one has to delete content I added.

Agree to follow Wikipedia community customs:

''Why I'm going back has no particular reason, I just wanted to try again a year after I was blocked.

This unblocking request is based on Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks, and Mathglot's suggestions, with those and my deWP additions I have shown that I follow instructions and policies.'' — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Other Karma (talk • contribs) 07:35, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

: {{u|The Other Karma}}: I'm not sure what you want me to see in those de-wiki links. You need to provide specific diffs of edits. Additionally, part of the reason for your block was that you weren't able to collaborate effectively. Please explain how you've approached collaboration at de-wiki, how you've dealt with any conflict there, and how you intend to deal with conflict going forward. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

::Ahhh, thank you very much! The Other Karma (talk) 17:47, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|accept=I have reimposed the partial block on articles as discussed. PhilKnight (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2025 (UTC)|reason=I would like to request to be unblocked. The reasons for my block given by others were:
insufficient English skills to write a Wikipedia article, and that I did not
want any text changed or things deleted and inability to collaborate
effectively. I understand that this was a problem, and I'm sorry, the proof are
my translations de:Didn't I Say to Make My Abilities Average in the Next
Life?!, de:TempleOS, de:Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory, and
de:Cyber Kill Chain, where I was able to show that such conflicts no longer
occur, as nobody complained when I translate from enWp to deWp as can be seen from the
[https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Kingdom_Hearts:_Melody_of_Memory&action=edit&redlink=1§ion=new empty discussion page], and when writing texts with English sources where I need to be able to
understand the sources, plus several admins and editors, notably Ley Loy, Seddon,
Anticomposite, and others from the Wikipedia:Discord can confirm that I can speak
and use English fluently. {{pb}}The proof that I collaborate effectively is the conflict on dewp about a
picture I suggested. To avoid the conflict, I took [https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_Diskussion:Belege&diff=253595860 into account the complaints]
that were voiced and proposed solutions. And we finally came to an agreement
without any major escalation. I would like to continue this strategy in the
future. As in my experience, this is a tried and tested strategy, which I also used
successfully in the discussion of the article [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Genderless_Kei Genderless Kei].{{pb}}Additionally, pages where I was the main author were changed and content was
deleted, namely [https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Dark_Mode&action=history Dark Mode], and [https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TempleOS&action=history Temple OS] and I didn't care,
unfortunately, I couldn't show more examples of deletion because normally no one
has to delete content i added. As to why I'm coming back, there's no particular
reason, I just wanted to give it a try a year after I was blocked. This
unblocking request is based on Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks, and
Mathglot's suggestions, with those and my deWP additions I have shown that I
follow instructions and policies. The Other Karma (talk) 12:16, 9 March 2025 (UTC)}} The Other Karma (talk) 12:16, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

• Could you provide some diffs of content creations over at de Wikipedia in articles? If you have only deleted content, then diffs of any useful edits will do. PhilKnight (talk) 16:31, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
• :@PhilKnight Gladly, could you tell me in what form? In the additions where I have translated or revised articles, I have made several changes, would you like all diffs (those are a lot), or is a link to the version history sufficient, or do you just want links to the biggest changes in some articles that i translated or revised?
  That also puzzled me at the feedback from Voorts.{{pb}}(Rewritten) Biggest Diff at Cyber Kill Chain: [https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cyber_Kill_Chain&diff=prev&oldid=251565733 „Cyber Kill Chain“ – Version difference – Wikipedia]
  (Translation) Biggest Diff at TempleOS: [https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TempleOS&diff=prev&oldid=251076046 „TempleOS“ – Version difference – Wikipedia]
  (Translation) Biggest Diff at Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory: [https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kingdom_Hearts:_Melody_of_Memory&diff=prev&oldid=252809538 „Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory“ – Version difference – Wikipedia] The Other Karma (talk) 17:01, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

::: Thanks. {{ping|Bishonen}} - what do you think? Are we at the stage where we can reimpose the partial block, or is it too soon? PhilKnight (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

::::Groan. I was just trying to tidy this confusing page, Phil (do you see the 2024 comment at the bottom?), but had to abandon the effort because of being edit conflicted. :-( Let me just try again before I answer you. (Please hold off replying, or there'll be another conflict.) Bishonen | tålk 17:28, 9 March 2025 (UTC).

::::Ah, there we go. Thanks. A partial block from article space is a pretty big deal in itself, so I think we can try that. The Other Karma, who is probably hoping for a full unblock, may well be disappointed by a partial, but I honestly don't feel they're ready for article space. Bishonen | tålk 17:47, 9 March 2025 (UTC).

:::::: Thanks Bishonen. {{ping|The Other Karma}} - are you okay with a partial block from articles as a first step to a full unblock? PhilKnight (talk) 17:58, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::While not the ideal outcome, as I was considering adding additions that I added on dewp that do not exist on enwp. But I'm also fine with that too, as a starting ground.
For the full unblock, so that I can plan for the future, an admin would what to see more effective collaboration right? The Other Karma (talk) 18:44, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::::: Yes, that's right. PhilKnight (talk) 18:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)