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Allegheny Mountain Radio isn't a full NPR station, but they do carry some NPR programming during the weekends and I think weekdays. Not sure if they could go into the "Other stations" field or not. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:19 on March 20, 2018 (UTC)

:I see zero NPR programming on their schedule (With Good Reason on weekends is not NPR, it's produced by an arm of the Va. state government) and they do not appear in the search on NPR's website, which lists all member stations regardless of what they carry. Xenon54 (talk) 01:23, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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As you can see from [http://americanradiohistory.com/Archive-BC/BC-1947/1947-01-20-BC.pdf this link], WINC-FM operated at 96.3 according to the FCC. Now whether or not they wrote that down on a card somewhere is neither here nor there. It is from the FCC, from 1947, via Broadcasting magazine (which was the mazagine for ALL things broadcasting, including all things FCC before the internet). - Neutralhomer • Talk • 22:47 on April 19, 2018 (UTC)

:That is a transposition. WCOD is shown in the list on 92.5 and it is well documented ([http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=83445], [http://americanradiohistory.com/Archive-BC/BC-1947/1947-02-24-BC.pdf] p.84, [https://books.google.com/books?id=obsZKVfCk04C&lpg=PA400&ots=5I8IoINMGJ&dq=WCOD%2096.3%20richmond&pg=PA400#v=onepage&q&f=false] p. 400) as operating on 96.3. And "writing it down on a card somewhere" is here AND there if it's the official record. You can't discount that just because it doesn't fit what you believe the facts to be. Xenon54 (talk) 00:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

::I never said I don't want to believe in the facts, I am just taking all the facts into account. But with the information you have shown, you are indeed correct. Remember, I am operating with very little information, basically this and the local library. I am not discounting or ignoring any facts, but taking all into account and assuming good faith. I'm also willing to admit that I was wrong and operated on incorrect information. That was my goof, but again, 1947, not my strong suit (born in 1981). :) I'll make the changes momentarily. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:05 on April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Those were the website and webstream links for the WCLM previously located in Richmond. As far as I know, WCLM in Laurel, MD and it's previous WILC, does not have a website. I'll keep an eye out though. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 07:48 on April 29, 2018 (UTC)

:I know. I didn’t add them, I removed them for that exact reason. Xenon54 (talk) 16:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

::I know, I was just giving you confirmation. :) I'll continue to keep an eye out for a current Laurel, MD-based WCLM website and webstream whenever one becomes available. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 20:59 on April 29, 2018 (UTC)

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Any consensus for this?

I always treated the name of a station like a title of a work, and thus should be italicized. ViperSnake151  Talk  21:59, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

:No, except that it seems to be rare among radio station articles I've ever worked on, and the example lede at WP:WPRS uses quotation marks. I don't think italics read well because it's unexpected, but also don't particularly care that much. Xenon54 (talk) 14:08, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, I reverted your edits on the above article - I felt that the material was already expressed in a pretty NPOV way, and was well sourced. Springnuts (talk) 15:09, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

:I disagree. My issue is the link to Propaganda in China. That's a bridge too far without consensus from multiple sources. Xenon54 (talk) 16:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

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WVRU-FM does carry "All Songs Considered", "World Cafe", and "Mountain Stage". All three shows are productions of NPR Music. Now, I don't know if that justifies the addition of the station to the template or not, or the addition of National Public Radio under the affiliations section on the WVRU-FM page, but I thought I would bring it up. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 22:25 on April 12, 2019 (UTC)

:They're not listed at https://www.npr.org/stations/, nor is NPR mentioned anywhere on their own website. There has to be a red line somewhere and that's it. Not a determination for anyone to make themselves based on one or two shows – WNRN carries only WC and is listed as a member. If and when either of those two facts change, it should be added. {{reply to|jeffconn}} Xenon54 (talk) 12:39, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

::Understood, I just thought I would bring it up. I wasn't sure if you were going by the main master list at NPR or via if they carry NPR shows. I really have no horse in this race, just throwing it out there. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:43 on April 13, 2019 (UTC)

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Thank for thinking my edit is correct at WJLA-TV. However, he has hit me with an edit warring notice. I have started a discussion at the talk page to explain his error. If you would reinforce your support for my edit there. Spshu (talk) 19:11, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

West Virginia Radio Corporation (WVRC) is, in fact, buying these stations. Per [https://radioinsight.com/headlines/176481/west-virginia-radio-corporation-to-acquire-wcst-wxdc/ this RadioInsight] story, you will see "West Virginia Radio Corporation will acquire Oldies "Max 92.9" WXDC/1010 WCST Berkeley Springs WV from Metro Radio LLC for an undisclosed amount." Further down it reads "WVRC will begin operating both stations on Wednesday, May 1 by debuting new formats on each station". The operation of the station is the LMA you linked, so that is correct. I will readd that. But, they are being sold.

I believe the slowness of the sale is because of technical issues with the stations, having to literally rebuild the stations from scratch in Berkeley Springs (they are currently aired out of Martinsburg), and now the COVID-19 pandemic. It also probably doesn't help that WVRC is based out of Morgantown and these stations are located in the Panhandle. So, yes, Metro Radio still "technically" owns them, but WVRC is operating them. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 22:40 on April 1, 2020 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WWLB&curid=13646941&diff=965660761&oldid=965660302 This was classic], I needed that. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 20:53 on July 2, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome • #BlackLivesMatter

Hi, {{u|Xenon54}}, I'm trying to understand the rationale for your edit to the WAMU infobox saying that listing its carrier current launch as the station's founding date is misleading. The new infobox format has a separate fields for founding and first airdate, so it seems to me appropriate to list 1951 as the station's founding vs. 1961 for its first airdate. Can you explain how you view it? Carter (talk) 19:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

:It is misleading. What was the carrier current station still exists as a separate webcaster; besides happening to share the same brand 60 years ago, it's not related to the FM station in the slightest, nor did the FM station (to my knowledge, or to the extent verified in the article) ever simulcast or otherwise pursue common programming. The "intellectual unit", so to speak, comprising the FM station dates to 1960. Your argument would be far more compelling – and correct – for something like WCVL-FM, which was transparently intended as a direct replacement for a carrier current station and signed on with the same programming. Xenon54 (talk) 20:26, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

::Thanks. The connections between the carrier-current WAMU and WAMU-FM are a bit more than what you're seeing. It was students and faculty working at the carrier-current station who pushed for the move to FM and to look beyond the campus (Harrington, 1981; Lornell, 2020). It's not clear from the online sources if there was overlap in programming when WAMU-FM first launched, but the [https://archives.lib.umd.edu/repositories/2/resources/682 WAMU Archives] do describe the station as moving from AM to FM. The [https://auislandora.wrlc.org/islandora/search/%20WAMU?type=edismax&cp=auislandora%3Auniversity_archives&islandora_solr_search_navigation=1&f%5B0%5D=mods_originInfo_dateCreated_mdt%3A%5B1951-12-31T00%3A00%3A00Z%20TO%201969-12-31T00%3A00%3A00Z%5D&limit=200&sort=mods_originInfo_encoding_iso8601_dateCreated_dt%20asc AU digital reseach archives], sadly, don't have too many pieces mentioning WAMU from the transition point. As for WVAU (looking at how it presents [https://wvau.org/757/constitution/wvau-the-constitution/ its history]), they seem to consider themselves a revival of student-run radio at AU, not a continuation of WAMU-AM.
• {{cite book|last=Lornell|first=Kip|title=Capital Bluegrass: Hillbilly Music Meets in Washington|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=evjCDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA152|accessdate=10 August 2020|year=2020|publisher=Oxford University Press|location=Oxford, England|isbn=978-0-19-986311-2|pages=152–154}}
• {{cite news|title=Grown-Up Radio: WAMU at 20|date=October 18, 1981|last=Harrington|first=Richard|work=The Washington Post|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1981/10/18/grown-up-radio-wamu-at-20/e7df36cc-534f-48da-b352-b0a8be61e86e/}}
• {{cite web|title=WVAU: The Constitution § The History of WVAU|date=November 20, 2017|website=WVAU|url=https://wvau.org/757/constitution/wvau-the-constitution/}}
Clearly there's room for getting a better telling of WAMU's history into the article, but that may have to wait until the pandemic ends enough to look at the archives (or for AU to digitize and post copies of The Eagle of other sources from the time). Carter (talk) 01:12, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

:::I think it's fair to describe the current WAMU as a fork of the original carrier current. The Illinois Digital Newspapers Collection has some issues of The AU Eagle from back then. At least two 1961 articles state that the AM and FM would simulcast programming from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. on weekdays and one notes that the AM and FM operations would have overlapping staff: " 'The FM will be operated by students who are operating the AM station under the guidance and direction of the Department of Speech Arts through the director of broadcasting,' Bruce Chapman, station manager, said."
• {{cite news|title=WAMU Goes FM Oct. 23; AM Continues On Campus|author=|work=The American University Eagle|location=Washington, D.C.|date=September 20, 1961|volume=36|number=1|page=3|url=https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/cgi-bin/illinois?a=d&d=AUE19610920.2.17&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN-WAMU--------|access-date=August 12, 2020}}
• {{cite news|title=WAMU Starts Broadcasts; To Present Music, News|last=Rogers|first=Dan|work=The American University Eagle|date=October 4, 1961|volume=36|number=3|page=4|url=https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/cgi-bin/illinois?a=d&d=AUE19611004.2.33&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN-WAMU--------|access-date=August 12, 2020}}
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::::Yes, that is fair. I'd certainly change my opinion were this information introduced into the article. Xenon54 (talk) 12:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

:::::Cool, I'll get around to working some of this into the article then. Carter (talk) 00:11, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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This [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Roanoke_TV&oldid=prev&diff=998669671 is true], the station's studios are [https://www.wdbj7.com/page/wzbj24/ technically in Roanoke now], but WZBJ-TV is still [https://www.fccdata.org/?lang=en&facid=15507 licensed to Danville], while sister-station WZBJ-CD is [https://www.fccdata.org/?lang=en&facid=168095 licensed to Lynchburg]. So, technically, we are both right. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 17:12 on January 6, 2021 (UTC) • #WearAMask • #BlackLivesMatter

You think the translator is bad, which I'm surprised it even made it on the air. You should see the tower...during the day. Cause at night, you can't. For the past 4 years, the thing has been dark. No working tower lights. They just operate as a "NOTAM", notice to airmen. Even though Shenandoah and nearby Rockingham counties have small plane traffic (cropdusters, big ag area) and is right in the flight path of Shenandoah Valley Regional Airport, they don't care. FCC has had them in their sights for awhile for "repeated tower light violations", but COVID kinda stopped them from coming out and doing site inspections. At last check, lights were still off. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 14:44 on January 29, 2021 (UTC)

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I can't revert, but technically the anon was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WCHV_(AM)&curid=12156079&diff=1174456315&oldid=1174362388 correct with this edit]. WCHV [https://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?call=WCHV is technically licensed] to 5,000 day, 2,500 night, and has an STA of 800 day only. Just throwing it out there. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:51, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

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