WP:Articles for deletion/DYIK

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Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delete: Not enough coverage to pass general notability guidelines. Fails GNG. TheDreamBoat (talk) 06:21, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
• Keep: The station is licensed per [http://storage.googleapis.com/request-attachments/krwjuYylHVSLLIneBnTI5jc9Tbe8fFM96hdHaRzlgo7uawnkM2AZ1usAzYkN26EeDvlaV0yL56GpT830ccMGHZyTnhk31ReKna5l/FM%20Listing.pdf last year's NTC listing] as it indicates an operator having a station. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:BCAST. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 16:00, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
• Keep Per Astig. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:14, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:GNG, and WP:BCAST is not an SNG which is specifically exempt from needing to meet GNG, so merely meeting it isn't enough to keep the article; WP:NOTDIRECTORY would also apply. I can't find any reliable secondary coverage of this radio station, though it's not impossible that I've missed some in a foreign language - if I have, please ping me. SportingFlyer T·C 14:10, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

:*NMEDIA is a notability recommendation. Notability guideline discussion to setup talking points for the RfC to make NMEDIA/BCAST a Guideline is ongoing at WT:N. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 11:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delete per SportingFlyer. WP:NMEDIA is not a guideline, and I disagree with its premise (the idea that media outlets deserve some sort of exemption from the GNG). Unless and until a community consensus, expressed at an RfC, concludes that NMEDIA is correct, I will simply apply the GNG, which this topic does not pass. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

• Keep Tony A. Al-halab Lebtimes 06:08, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete - I can find no evidence whatsoever that this topic has the level of coverage required to meet WP:GNG Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
• Keep Meets WP:BCAST per Astig's and Neutralhomer's argument. SBKSPP (talk) 00:37, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I disagree with the premises (such as they are) advanced by those !voting keep. Superstig's is pretty much a variation on WP:ITEXISTS, and argues—incorrectly—that this is sufficient to pass our notability guidelines; the same goes, of course, for 'per astig'. There's a slightly curious 'Keep Tony A.', and I have no idea how to pass that as either an argument, or indeed, an argument to avoid. Neutralhomer does admittedly challenge SpportingFlyer, but this challenge is based on an as-yet unresolved RfC, so of less value, unfortunately, right now, as it might be in future discussions. SBKSSP—the article's creator—argues in support of two already less that effectual arguments.{{pb}}For the record, there has been little to no independent, third party coverage of the station in reliable sources, either [https://www.google.com/search?q=DYIK+%2B+tanjay&client=firefox-b-d&biw=2159&bih=850&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ALeKk01catsZnql12guncQ-f1Cv-0eFMmw%3A1623870894237&ei=rk3KYKmIDovKgQaUuqmQBw&oq=DYIK+%2B+tanjay&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2206.2972.0.3316.2.2.0.0.0.0.76.148.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.n12WvELGCc8 news outlets] or [https://www.google.com/search?q=DYIK+%2B+tanjay&client=firefox-b-d&tbm=bks&sxsrf=ALeKk03x_rV0_aYxnydposSH2aztok8Osw:1623870898402&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXm73A7pzxAhWZi1wKHf0eB3QQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=2159&bih=850&dpr=1.09 literature]. While WP:OFFLINE is often relevant with non-English, non-Western topics, this is sufficiently recent that a solid digital footprint would be expected. There is none. So, the article fails WP:NORG also. ——Serial 19:20, 16 June 2021 (UTC)|
• {{u|Serial Number 54129}} I just want to say that this is one of the most well-thought-out, well-explained, takes-all-sides-into-account, and polite AfD response I have ever seen, that I ain't even mad that it's a "Delete". Well done! - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
• {{u|Serial Number 54129}}, how can my argument be a variation on WP:ITEXISTS if I only use WP:NMEDIA, which is in fact a notability recommendation? If only I said "The station exists per blah blah blah", then it's a form of ITEXISTS. My argument is much farther from that and therefore is never, will never be and still never be a variation of ITEXISTS. Have some common sense, men. 🙂 ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 03:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

:::Common sense resounds abounds around. You literally said "keep, it's on this list of stations" (the essence of WP:EXISTS), followed by an unsubstantiated claim that an article of literally less than 30 words passes WP:BCAST, even though it's sole sourcing is to that same list that proves it exists and nothing else. D'oh! ——Serial 11:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delete. Doesn't meet general notability guidelines. Rondolinda (talk) 20:16, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete, clearly doesn't meet GNG. --littleb2009 (^she/_her) (talk • contribs) 22:01, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. We shouldn't be creating articles simply because a subject exists. It should also be notable. This is why we have guidelines. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 12:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom.4meter4 (talk) 00:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - [http://www.metropolis2.co.uk/StRexx/ This] rings true for why secondary schools are not automatically notable. So too does it ring true for radio stations or really any subject. I agree we should use common sense. I wish we used it more, especially on historical subjects where fewer sources may be found. Common sense does not mean we abandon reason. The guidelines provide that reason. Other than its "call sign", why is this radio station different than any other? What sets it apart from them and gives it notability? If you can't tell me then how I am I supposed to know? --ARoseWolf 15:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

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