WP:Articles for deletion/Russell Hantz (5th nomination)

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Article lacks notability, previously deleted. ToyFoxTerrier (talk) 08:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

:::Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

::@User:ToyFoxTerrier: Could u please be a little more specific on how this article lacks notability? Being that Hantz was a very popular contestant on a very popular reality/game show, and that he later hosted his own TV show (which was completely unrelated to Survivor), I don't see how he fails the notability guidelines. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 10:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Article was nominated with delete or redirect consensus 4 times previously. 174.252.18.23 (talk) 08:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• ::Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

::It appears that the user who nominated the article for deletion for the fourth time back in September was a sockpuppet. So that whole discussion should be out of the picture. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 03:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep : Today . com, USAtoday.com, are enough for notability. OccultZone (Talk) 09:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Keep: I don't know why this article keeps showing up as a candidate for deletion. BLP1E clearly doesn't apply here: he was a very popular contestant on Survivor, he hosted his own house-flipping show, and he received coverage for being arrested. Seriously, how much more notability is needed before he can have his own article? It might've been deleted before, but it's been significantly reworked for notability and reliability, which is perfectly permissible. Keep per WP:GNG. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 09:15, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Delete As fan cruft. Article has the same details as it did before. A non notable TV show contestant with a non-notable show. PlayChess14 (talk) 09:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• ::Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

::@User:PlayChess14: Might wanna take a look at the most recent AFD nominations for Rafe Judkins, Kim Spradlin, and Jennifer Lyon. They've got less notability than Hantz does, but they were still kept because they passed WP:BLP1E. Could u explain how this article is any different? (And BTW, it's not a fan cruft either, as it's written from a completely neutral perspective). Survivorfan1995 (talk) 09:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

:::Rafe is a writer, Kim was a Sole Survivor, and Jennifer was an actress. The article here mainly talks about what he did on Survivor and then his little known show and a couple of paragraphs on his personal life. Pretty much the same article as last time. PlayChess14 (talk) 09:39, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

::::@User:PlayChess14: Jennifer was overwhelmingly best known for her Survivor appearance. Her few acting roles are very little known. Pretty much the same thing applies to Hantz, he's best known for his Survivor appearances, but also hosted his own show, which extends his notability beyond one event. Also check out Bobby Jon Drinkard, Tyson Apostol, and Stephanie LaGrossa. If these are acceptable, why shouldn't Hantz be? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 09:47, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

:::::Oh, and one more thing, the article doesn't all have the same details as before. Many things were changed if u look carefully. WP:RECREATE permits recreation with content improvement. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 23:39, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• Note: To those !voting "speedy keep": this does not meet the speedy keep criteria. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 12:15, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Keep, meets GNG, the rest is clean-up issues. Sportfan5000 (talk) 13:07, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - If you sift through the overkill reflist, there are interviews and such by reliable sources that cover the subject in-depth. Tarc (talk) 13:47, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Redirect to Flipped Off. Still not notable to have his own article. 108.6.38.122 (talk) 14:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• :Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:53, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - meets GNG. Case closed. Gloss • talk 17:13, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. The subject was discussed in detail many times in the media with regard to his Survivor appearances. His notoriety or fame was shown to be lasting when he was cast in Flipped Off. Easily satisfies WP:GNG. Binksternet (talk) 20:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Delete, still not notable. 75.127.185.74 (talk) 21:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• :Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
• Keep I mean, really. In addition to the sources in the article, Hantz was even discussed in the NYT in relation to his appearance on the show. He clearly meets the GNG.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - The subject meets WP:BASIC, qualifying for a Wikipedia article. Northamerica1000^(talk) 23:28, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• keep per WP:GNG and multiple seasons, so no good single redirect point. Frietjes (talk) 01:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
• Delete, per nom. Jygost (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
• :Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
• keep I really don't understand why Hantz has been nominated for deletion so often. His article has improved over the years, and still will; there are people who are willing to improve this. The article has several sources, each section is detailed, and he is notable outside of Surivor (ex. his arrest, TV show). There's no point in deleting this as he is more than notable enough to have his own page. He also gets a lot of page views, which means people are interested in him. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 15:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. Never won, show he hosted is hardly notable. 170.35.208.206 (talk) 19:45, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
• :Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per above. 198.228.200.152 (talk) 16:00, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
• :Sockpuppet of banned editor.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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