WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 December 1

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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete, but some consensus to move {{tl|R from common noun}} then merge. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:01, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|R from proper noun}}

I don't see why we need this. There are only 5 transclusions and there probably won't be much more. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:33, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

• Comment: Seems like we should instead merge {{tl|R from proper noun}} into {{tl|R from common noun}} and rename that {{tl|R from noun}}. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:49, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. If the decision is to merge, then I shall be happy to merge this template into {{{{-r|Template:R from noun|R from noun}}}} (presently a redirect) after {{tl|R from common noun}} is moved there. After that, I will deal with the redirect categories. – Paine Ellsworth ^CLIMAX! 21:36, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|Telford Tigers}}

Unused Template - all Red Links Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 01:31, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

• delete Frietjes (talk) 17:54, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:00, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|Montserrat national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Montenegro national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Chad national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Central African Republic national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Aruba national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Anguilla national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Andorra national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|São Tomé and Príncipe national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Somalia national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Saint Kitts and Nevis national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|New Caledonia national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Papua New Guinea national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Martinique national football team managers}}

Per WP:NENAN - only three links. Not a useful aid to navigation at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 12:19, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

:Do not delete these national team templates. These have become standard for national football teams where generally speaking the managers are notable. Infrastructure has been built for when future articles are created, this is not related to WP:NENAN because it is not a "random" navbox. Borgarde (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

::Articles should be created before navboxes. Until this is done they are inherently not a useful aid to navigation. As their name suggests they are meant to help navigate between articles not provide lists of managers. There is no issue with them being recreated once there are sufficient articles to justify their presence. Fenix down (talk) 22:07, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep all- as national team managers these redlinks entries on these templates would be notable, they just haven't been created yet, therefore I see no reason to delete. GiantSnowman 20:37, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:59, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|Tahiti national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Solomon Islands national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Northern Mariana Islands national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Djibouti national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Curaçao national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Comoros national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Bahamas national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Dominican Republic national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Vanuatu national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|South Sudan national football team managers}}

Per WP:NENAN - only two links. Not a useful aid to navigation at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 12:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

::Do not delete these national team templates. These have become standard for national football teams where generally speaking the managers are notable. Infrastructure has been built for when future articles are created, this is not related to WP:NENAN because it is not a "random" navbox. Borgarde (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

:::Articles should be created before navboxes. Until this is done they are inherently not a useful aid to navigation. As their name suggests they are meant to help navigate between articles not provide lists of managers. There is no issue with them being recreated once there are sufficient articles to justify their presence. Fenix down (talk) 22:06, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep all- as national team managers these redlinks entries on these templates would be notable, they just haven't been created yet, therefore I see no reason to delete. The only exception, which needs deleting, is Northern Mariana, because it is not FIFA-affiliated. GiantSnowman 20:39, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep all but Zanzibar, Kiribati and Gibraltar. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|Zanzibar national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Saint Lucia national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Kiribati national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Guadeloupe national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Gibraltar national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Dominica national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Burundi national football team managers}}

:{{Tfd links|Barbados national football team managers}}

Per WP:NENAN - only one link. Not a useful aid to navigation at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 12:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

:Do not delete these national team templates. These have become standard for national football teams where generally speaking the managers are notable. Infrastructure has been built for when future articles are created, this is not related to WP:NENAN because it is not a "random" navbox. Borgarde (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

::Articles should be created before navboxes. Until this is done they are inherently not a useful aid to navigation. As their name suggests they are meant to help navigate between articles not provide lists of managers. There is no issue with them being recreated once there are sufficient articles to justify their presence. Fenix down (talk) 22:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep all- as national team managers these redlinks entries on these templates would be notable, they just haven't been created yet, therefore I see no reason to delete. Exceptions, which need deleting - Zanzibar (not FIFA-affiliated), as well as Kiribati and Gibraltar (not enough entries to justify a template even if all redlinks turned blue). GiantSnowman 20:41, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
• Keep per above. As far as I know, all sports teams have a navigation template. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 08:05, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

:*{{ping|VegasCasinoKid}} nope, that is not the case at all. GiantSnowman 12:48, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

::*{{ping|GiantSnowman}} Major league sports team have temps. I have not seen a page without one. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 12:06, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

:::*{{ping|VegasCasinoKid}} a "major" team is not the same as "all" teams... ;) GiantSnowman 12:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

::::*{{ping|GiantSnowman}} I guess. Just don't melt away too soon. Winter is just getting started. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 02:31, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|Saarland national football team managers}}

Per WP:NENAN - only two links. Not a useful aid to navigation. As the country no longer exists it is unclear how this could ever be useful. Fenix down (talk) 12:23, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - only two links is not sufficient. GiantSnowman 20:42, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per nominator....William 13:53, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|Rabat Ajax F.C. managers}}

Per WP:NENAN - only one link. Not a useful aid to navigation at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 13:11, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - template has been expanded since the nomination, with numerous links, and therefore serves a purpose. GiantSnowman 20:43, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
• Withdraw Rabat Ajax F.C. managers - now has sufficient links to just about be a useful aid to navigation. Bogic (talk) 21:05, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:09, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{Tfd links|Ottawa Wizards coaches}}

Per WP:NENAN - only two links. Not a useful aid to navigation at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 13:13, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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:*Delete per nominator....William 13:08, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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