WT:WikiProject Film#Multilingual films and categories

Just came across 2012 BFI London Film Festival Awards, which is just about the end-of-festival awards that were presented in 2012 and not about the whole festival. Obviously that's not how we write about film festivals ordinarily — while some film festivals {Cannes, Berlin, Toronto, Sundance, etc.) do have separate articles about each year's event, they're supposed to be complete articles about the entire event, including as complete as possible a listing of all the films that screened at the festival, with that year's award winners certainly coverable in a subsection of that larger article but not isolated as their own independent article topic all by themselves.

BFI London does have such articles in place for 2022, 2023 and 2024, but not yet for earlier years, while this appears to be the only one that treats the award announcements as a standalone topic in their own right while pretending that nothing else about the rest of the festival was notable at all.

Obviously, this should be converted into a more thorough and complete article about the 2012 BFI festival as a whole, if possible — but if it can't, then it's unclear that it would actually be needed in its existing form. So do any British editors here have access to resources (media coverage, the 2012 film schedule listings, etc.) that could get it looking more like individual-year film festival articles are supposed to look? Bearcat (talk) 04:16, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:I attended the festival and probably have the festival programme somewhere. The Times and Evening Standard probably have good articles with the data. Unfortunately I don't have time to expand it at the moment. There is some info about the festival in the main festival page under the section for 2012 to 2017 that could go in there and this article lists the opening and closing night films https://www2.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/every-bfi-london-film-festival-opening-night-film so some basic updates could be made easily to convert it into an article not just about the awards. If anyone does have time, this webpage is good for trying to create articles for earlier years although it's not necessarily easy to tie up that to what was actually screened based on one I tried to do. https://web.archive.org/web/20090113202852/http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/eventseries/825 I have started to create one for the 25th anniversary and would like to do one for the first festival at some point. Sudiani (talk) 19:51, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

There are a few relevant discussions regarding regarding the Sinners article's production section as well as its budget range. They can be found at Talk:Sinners (2025 film)#Production and Talk:Sinners (2025 film)#Budget range. Any input from project members would be appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:32, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I recently submitted a draft article on Elijah Anatole, a Saint Lucian filmmaker and director of the nationally released 2025 feature film Heartfall. The article is backed by reliable, independent sources (e.g., St. Lucia Times, The Voice, Hot7TV). I’d appreciate it if someone from the project could review the draft or help speed up the review process.

Thanks in advance!

ArtlasStudios (talk) 01:48, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

I came across this terminology for a person employed as a film charger and I see that there are also devices for the task. Should we have an entry on the subject? Is a film charger the same as a film loader? Clapper loader? FloridaArmy (talk) 15:14, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{Reply to|FloridaArmy}} I tried searching around for information but I was unable to find anything that cleared up this. I don't know if this is because information doesn't really exist, or if search engines are so bad these days that they were unable to find information on it.★Trekker (talk) 23:13, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

A discussion regarding whether we should list chief producers in the infobox can be found at Template talk:Infobox film#Chief producers. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

I've nominated Animal Crackers to be a good article, after some work. I was hoping to make it a featured article before it goes into public domain in January (and maybe make it a TFA in January). I think there will be a lot more interest in this kind of work as more sound films fall into PD. I put it up for a Peer Review, and one of the reviewers suggested I look for help here. Any input from project members would be appreciated! Jm307 (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg You are invited to join the discussion at WP:ANI § An IP is adding probably false cast members into movies articles, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Left guide (talk) 21:43, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

I've created a new discussion on how to resolve some issues on the plot summary of Sinners at Talk:Sinners (2025 film)#Plot section resolution. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

An editor submitted the article to peer review as he wanted to make the article better, and possibly reach FA or GA status, in advance of the film entering into the public domain in January 2026.

I came across the listing and decided to page you guys here at WP:FILM. The article is currently well-researched but needs a lot of editing for tone, style, conciseness, as well as falling in line with FA-level articles about films. I'm not very knowledgeable on editing film stuff in WP, but thought you guys might be a help.

I've already given some feedback on the peer review page and made some edits. Please feel free to chime in with advice, insight and opinions. CVDX (talk) 21:03, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi all. There is an active disagreement at Talk:Deemak about the stability of the article for a recent Pakistani film, whether if it meets Wikipedia guidelines or not. Any helpful comments by the experienced editors are most welcomed, thank you! M. Billoo 23:08, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

There is a discussion on whether to include actors in the Godzilla article. It can be found at Talk:Godzilla (1954 film)#Poster actors. Any input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:11, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Me and an IP have discussed the issue of how some information on the Zilla (Godzilla) article have been presented, or rather misrepresented -- and we both have come to an agreement on how to improve the article. However, the overhaul of an entire article cannot rest on the decision of two editors. Therefore, I invite those interested to the discussion at the article's talk page and provide your two cents. Some of the edits we've proposed may invoke resistance, or even controversy, so mass consensus is needed before we implement our edits. Armegon (talk) 05:57, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

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An editor has requested that :Standee be moved to another page, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Pineapple Storage (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

In every List of American films articles after 2011, ComingSoon.net is, most of the time, cited. However, all of the cited sources redirect to an error message. Should we remove them? Ryanisgreat4444 (talk) 16:34, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:The sources should be updated if there are new URLs or if archived ones need to be used instead. ComingSoon.net still exists and should not be blanket removed. - adamstom97 (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

Does D.E.B.S. (2004 film) belong in List of American films of 2004, the year it premiered at Sundance, or List of American films of 2005, the year it went wide release in the United States? Guidelines in the MOS say to go with the earliest release date, but User:Ryanisgreat4444 thinks this is ignored in practice. Thoughts? 2001:8F8:172B:3F78:1829:9AC2:4EBC:716C (talk) 16:50, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:Helloo, I would really appreciate some clarification on this. Should films be sorted by their day of wide release of United States or the earliest day of premiere? 2001:8F8:172B:3F78:88F0:561B:76C2:ACCA (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

::I don't really work much on these articles, but observing the principles of WP:FILMRELEASE would make more sense to me, otherwise you are going to end up with inconsistencies i.e. D.E.B.S. (2004 film) is described as a 2004 film (and disambiguated to that effect) on the basis its earliest public release was in 2004 in the United States. Therefore it would be slightly odd to put it in the 2005 list. If the tables have different criteria (such as when the film went on general release) then that should be clearer. Betty Logan (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi all. There is an active disagreement at Talk:Love Guru (2025 film) about the inclusion of a sourced line. The article is about a recent Pakistani film. Any helpful comments by the experienced editors are most welcomed, thank you! M. Billoo 16:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Disney Star#Requested move 13 June 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥 ^{(discuss · contribs)} 23:46, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately we have lost another project friend and great contributor, User:Krimuk2.0. He died in early April, less than a month after MarnetteD. You may remember him for his excellent FA work on some of the top Hollywood actresses. RIP Krimuk. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:07, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

... was started, everyone is welcome to comment: Template talk:Infobox film - Wikipedia 2A00:6020:B24A:CF00:D9EE:36CC:E9F0:1AF2 (talk) 23:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi all,

I’m posting with a conflict of interest disclosure. I’m an actor who appeared in Detective Chinatown 1900 (2024), a movie listed on Wikipedia.

About a month ago, I made a request on the article’s Talk page to be added to the cast list based on my credited, speaking role (Thomas Lawrence), and provided multiple sources:

Talk:Detective Chinatown 1900#Request to add actor to cast list

I haven’t received a response yet, and I’m hoping a neutral editor could take a look and, if appropriate, make the addition. I’ve avoided editing the article directly due to COI.

Thanks in advance!

— User:Egghead's Voicebox Egghead's Voicebox (talk) 04:39, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:F1 (film)#Requested move 18 June 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥 ^{(discuss · contribs)} 17:02, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

There's a discussion taking place at Talk:Predator (franchise)#Regarding placing the films into different sections, which might be of interest to the members of this WikiProject. Vestrian24Bio 03:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

We are having a dispute over how many are appropriate at Talk:Kim Novak#Excessive photos (currently five for Novak). Comments are requested. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

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How do we feel about this close and potential ramifications? --woodensuperman 08:21, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

:I can't speak for everyone, but if there is only one work from a director, the category does seem a null point. You'd presumably click it when within the article and only find yourself re-directed back to the only film article again. I wouldn't stress the importance of Wikipedia categories too much as they are very rarely viewed by readers in general. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:44, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Per the guideline regarding primary creators, would any one like to comment on this discussion regarding Aubrey Plaza and a couple of similar navboxes on the same page? --woodensuperman 08:23, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Best man (disambiguation)#Requested move 11 June 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. CNC (talk) 19:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Karuppu (film)#Requested move 21 June 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 11:45, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Please review my draft: draft:Avatar: Seven Havens Rafael Hello! 13:27, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

:It is a part of Wikiproject film. Rafael Hello! 13:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

::WP:TV is probably the more appropriate place since this is for a TV series. I expect this submission will be declined since the draft is just a few sentences. There is also a separate, incorrectly titled draft already at Draft:Avatar:Seven Havens which this should probably be merged to. - adamstom97 (talk) 13:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Michael Madsen's nomination is two days from lapsing on WP:ITN/C#RD: Michael Madsen, unfortunately due to the stubiness of the article. The article needs some fleshing out in the Career section. Daß Wölf 16:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Is the New York Times reader poll allowed ? I thought user polls in general weren’t. Gongjo (talk) 18:44, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

:I was somewhat wondering about this myself. Any chance the poll itself has received coverage in other sources? DonIago (talk) 20:22, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

::Yes, among them:

::* Kansas City Star: [https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/yvette-walker/article309883505.html Were your favorites in the ‘The 100 Best Movies of the 21st Century’?]

::* MSN: [https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/markets/interstellar-at-89-oppenheimer-at-65-nyt-s-100-best-films-of-21st-century-leaves-cinephiles-divided/ar-AA1I0E1a Interstellar at 89? Oppenheimer at 65? NYT’s 100 best films of 21st century leaves cinephiles divided]

::* Hindustan Times: [https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/the-best-movie-of-the-21st-century-new-york-times-parasite-korean-film-beat-interstellar-moonlight-dark-knight-walle-101751708766148.html Not Interstellar, Moonlight, Dark Knight, Wall-E, but an indie Korean film has been rated the best movie of 21st century]

::* Mexico News Daily: [https://mexiconewsdaily.com/culture/mexican-movies-nyt-100-best/ The 5 Mexican movies that made NYT’s 100 Best of the 21st Century]

::* Screen Rant: [https://screenrant.com/mulholland-drive-movie-greatest-nyt-list/ This Movie With 84% On Rotten Tomatoes Is The Favorite To Top NYT's 100 Greatest Movies Of The 21st Century List]

::UrielAcosta (talk) 22:03, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

:::Those are about a different list. We are talking about the readers poll which could be susceptible to brigading. Gongjo (talk) 23:03, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

:I gather this is about [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/movies/readers-movies-21st-century.html this list]. It should not be cited on Wikipedia. Per WP:USERGEN, {{tq|Although review aggregators (such as Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic) may be reliable when summarizing experts, the ratings and opinions of their users (including the reported rating averages) are not.}} The same principles apply here. TompaDompa (talk) 23:47, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

::I’ll remove them Gongjo (talk) 01:57, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

::Agreed. The other issue is that the editor who has been adding the poll to articles didn't stop at 100; [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crazy_Rich_Asians&diff=prev&oldid=1299296019 here's number 354], for example. The Times article is paywalled so I don't understand why the list extends beyond 100, but my suspicion is that they presented the readers with a list of films and asked them to pick their favourites. If true, this would make the list even more deserving of exclusion. Barry Wom (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2025 (UTC)