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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew A. Jacono

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is no other way this discussion can be closed, despite the apparent "meatpuppet convention". (non-admin closure) Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talkabout my edits? 12:34, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

=[[Andrew A. Jacono]]=

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non notable Droliver (talk) 18:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

This is nominally a vanity entry of a non-notable surgeon in our field. Droliver (talk) 18:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:38, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Comment - This looks like the best of the mass nominations of plastic surgeons. Smells like a vanity piece. But I'm O-for-the-rest-of-the-day on this genre of nomination and out of gas and will leave it at that. Carrite (talk) 00:49, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete Agree, this is a vanity piece. The subject does not appear to qualify under either WP:ACADEMIC (he has a moderate number of [http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=andrew+a.+jacono&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=on publications], but he is always one of a whole string of authors) or general notability. --MelanieN (talk) 03:32, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 20:55, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

This is a biography of the reconstructive surgeon featured on "Facing Trauma", a medical documentary broadcasted on both the Discovery Fit and Health Network and the Oprah Winfrey Network. Being featured on a nationally-broadcasted television program itself should be justification for a Wikipedia page for the surgeon. There are several other TV doctors with their own Wikipedia entries: Jan Garavaglia (Dr.G Medical Examiner) and Laura Berman (In the Bedroom with Dr. Laura Berman) are two examples. Not sure why this doctor's page should be removed given those examples. Grasshopper200 (talk) 15:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grasshopper200 (talk • contribs) — Grasshopper200 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  • Keep -I think we lost sight of the forest for the trees. The entire point of having a bio on Dr. Jacono is so that TV viewers can find more info on the plastic surgeon who is featured on "Facing Trauma". His bio is similar to other TV plastic surgeon biographies such as Dr. Rey and Dr. Kotler (Dr. 90210), which have been listed for quite some time. BlueLotus85 (talk) 01:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)— BlueLotus85 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Keep -Dr. Jacono is heavily sought out for his work which was featured on the new show Facing Trauma on Discovery Fit & Health, not solely the work he does at his practice. If this were a “vanity post” there would be more information included about his own surgery center and would not include all other relevant endeavors.BeautyChick82384 (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2012 (UTC) — BeautyChick82384 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Keep -Not only is Dr. Jacono a renowned facial plastic and reconstructive surgeon, but he has volunteered his time and skills to various charities to help those in need. The basis of his charity work is the inspiration for his show, Facing Trauma. His page not only talks about him, but also delves into the various organizations he works with, making it a great resource.Musicmaven607 (talk) 17:34, 13 January 2012 (UTC) — Musicmaven607 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Keep -Dr. Jacono is one of the few philanthropic leaders in his field. His page is informative about not only his career but the organizations he volunteers with. It also includes information in his show, a resource that is helpful for those wanting to learn more about Facing Trauma.StaceyBrown1969 (talk) 17:42, 13 January 2012 (UTC) — StaceyBrown1969 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • ::Um, guys, not to be mean or anything, but: Welcome to Wikipedia. These pages aren't a vote, so adding a bunch of comments from "different" users isn't helpful. Everybody here knows that user accounts are free and don't even require you to supply an e-mail address. So when the experienced editors see a string of comments from several brand-new accounts, we pretty much assume that it's one human trying his best to game the system. It doesn't work, and it regularly backfires, because sometimes the people making the final decision assume that your efforts to "trick" them mean that you believe there's no good reason to keep the article.
    If you want to keep this bio around, the single most helpful thing you can do is to type up the bibliographic citations for WP:Independent sources that talk about this person. The key word there is "independent": it's got to be something like the local newspaper or a magazine run by someone unconnected to him, not his own website or the TV show that he works for. Good luck, WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:21, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
  • :::I have opened an SPI case regarding these users. Those interested can view it at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grasshopper200. Chris the Paleontologist (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:42, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

O.K., let's try the following:

1. Healing From Domestic Violence, Parade, August 2, 2009

http://www.parade.com/news/intelligence-report/archive/090802-healing-from-domestic-violence.html

2. Erasing the scars of abuse, Newsday, December 15, 2007

http://www.newsday.com/news/erasing-the-scars-of-abuse-1.522563

3. Ghana orphan finds hope in N.Y.C., NYDailNews.com June 26, 2007

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/ghana-orphan-finds-hope-n-y-article-1.225393

4. N.y. Surgeon Repairs Faces Of Domestic Abuse Sun-Sentinel, December 25, 2005

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2005-12-25/news/0512240275_1_domestic-violence-face-melissa

5. Corrective Surgery, Can Bad Plastic Surgery Be Fixed? About.com, August 15th 2008

http://plasticsurgery.about.com/od/beforesurgery/a/corrective.htm

6. New “MADE” Technique is Revolutionizing the Facelift, Haute Living, November 11, 2011

http://www.hauteliving.com/luxury-guide/dr-andrew-jacono/

7. Andrew A. Jacono, MD, FACS, injects humanity into his innovative facial cosmetic techniques, Plastic Surgery Practice, November 2007.

http://www.plasticsurgerypractice.com/issues/articles/2007-11_01.asp

8. “Facing Trauma”: Restoring hope for violence victims through plastic surgery, Realself.com, February 19, 2011

http://www.realself.com/blog/facing-trauma-jacono

9. Facial Reconstruction After Skin Cancer Surgery, About.com, July 8, 2008

http://plasticsurgery.about.com/od/reconstructiveprocedures/a/skin_cancer.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by OffshrEddy (talk • contribs) 17:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talkabout my edits? 07:55, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

  • weak keep but gut the fluff out of the article. This has serious NPOV issues and I wonder what the criteria is to qualify as a "humanitarian". Article is bordering on needing a complete rewrite. There are enough sources, although the press release junk could be deleted. As a side note, why does this AFD look like a meatpuppet convention? Dennis Brown (talk) 13:04, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.