Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Batcomputer  (2nd nomination)

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant English-language coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Prior AfD is from 2008 when the assumption was that if it is related to something big like the Batman franchise 'there must be sources'. 12 years later, this is still a piece of WP:FANCRUFT, I am afraid. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:18, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Batcave. A few paragraphs in that article seems sufficient for this topic. Rhino131 (talk) 04:32, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
• Keep When one actually searches for sources, one immediately finds items like [https://metro.co.uk/2017/02/24/siri-will-now-become-the-batcomputer-if-you-say-these-magic-words-6470741/ this]. I just tried it and, while Siri started rambling about the Condiment King, it doesn't seem that she will still do the voice. Another way of getting your own version is detailed [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=6dz1oA7SKg4C&pg=PA27 here]. And, of course, it's covered in works like the Encyclopedia of Television Subjects, Themes and Settings and The Essential Batman Encyclopedia. The nomination's claims are not credible. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
• The Metro is a tabloid not much better than Daily Mail (even owned by Daily Mail and General Trust, and anyway just see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Metro - Metro is declared an unreliable source), and oh, this is hardly in-depth coverage, comparing something to Batcomputer in a title is effectively the extent (so even if the source was reliable, the article itself is useless for GNG purposes). And, of course, the other examples cited by David are mentions in passing and/or pure plot summaries, some of them published by the same IP owner as the comics, so not independent. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
• The story about the Siri/Batcomputer is reliable because, of course, it appears in numerous other sources such as Games Radar; San Francisco Chronicle; Manchester Evening News; NME; &c. And, I've checked it out myself. So that reliability canard is a crock. The objections to those encyclopedias is likewise ridiculous. The coverage of the Batcomputer is not a passing mention; it's the entire point of those works to provide such details. If you don't like what's said then that's WP:IDONTLIKEIT contrary to core policy. It's not the nominator's job to censor topics that they don't like. I'm fine with the sources and the topic and so my !vote stands. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
• Merge, or redirect to batcave. The batcomputer has a place in history as an early, high viewership depiction of what a supercomputer was physically like in the 1960s and science fiction that would become reality in the 21st century. See the top of my user page where I reflect on its impact on my life, and my involvement in Wikipedia. The batcomputer has less, if any, cultural significance in the modern films. However there seems to be a scarcity of reliable sources. I think what is there could be cut down to statements for which sources can be found, and assuming that doesn't leave us with much of an article it should be merged into the batcave article. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:41, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
• Redirect or delete. Nothing to establish notability. Even if there happens to be anything commenting on this topic specifically, the parent article is in dire need of those sources. TTN (talk) 21:04, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
• Redirect or delete due to lack of coverage in third party sources. This topic isn't independently notable, but probably fits in another notable batman article. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:38, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
• Redirect to Batcave - Not independently notable. Darkknight2149 05:41, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
• Redirect: to the Batcave article. Any claims that there is significant coverage in reliable sources of the subject is just short of dementia. Ravenswing 08:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
• Redirect to Batcave per above. The coverage in reliable sources is not extensive enough to support an independent article, but it is certainly a valid search term that could be used to redirect to the broader topic. Rorshacma (talk) 17:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
• Redirect to Batcave. Nothing here can't be covered there. The only good reference has been copied over. I'm not sure what would be merged, but any interested parties will have access to the history. -2pou (talk) 18:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

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