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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton Road   (2nd nomination)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. The only reason given for keeping is that we should not be "deleting every stub article we find", but since being a stub is not the reason given for deletion, that is irrelevant. As for merging, there is no clear answer to which article it should be merged to, but obviously there is nothing to stop anyone from independently adding suitable content to the relevant articles. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:33, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

=[[Brighton Road]]=

AfDs for this article:
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No indication of notability and of my first 100 results of my Google Search page for "brighton road croydon", the most reliable of which is a Croydon Guardian bellyaching about Lidl being the fourth supermarket to open on it in two years. (Morrisons has opened four branches in Croydon in six months.)

Being a long road may have been an indication of notability eight years ago, but our standards have improved significantly since. An alternative is to redirect to Sutton High Street#History. Launchballer 23:46, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Delete - There's a long road outside my house ..... Should it get an article too? .... No evidence of notability (As an aside note It's amazing to see how times have changed since 2006). –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 01:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:15, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:15, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Merge to A23 road. Merging to Sutton is illogical as it doesn't run there. As I live on Brighton Road, the main M23 is also unofficially known as the Brighton Road but better redirect it to an A-road. aycliffetalk 08:27, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

::Brighton Road has its origins in a horse route which originally went through Sutton before moving to Croydon. There is a chunk of information there about the road before it moved - albeit unsourced, {{u|A P Monblat}} - so it makes sense to redirect to where the information is. I am not expecting Sutton library to be open any time within the next week and a bit, but when it is open, I'll have a look.--Launchballer 20:23, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

:::I have just added a further source and partly rewritten the information in Sutton High Street#History. Hopefully, it's a bit more useful now. A P Monblat (talk) 05:21, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

::::In truth, the A217 is also known as the Brighton Road, however, the page in question is referring to the Croydon road, hence my reasoning to merge it with the A23 rather than anything else. aycliffetalk 10:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

:::::The A217 is not exactly Brighton Road; I've just checked with Google Maps and the Sutton Brighton Road finishes at its junction with the A232 and with the rest of Sutton High Street, well after the A217 went in a different direction and became Belmont Rise. In my original prod, I had suggested converting into a disambiguation page. I thought I'd carried that suggestion into my AfD rationale but apparently not - would this be something you would think a good idea? The Croydon road does not appear to meet WP:GNG.--Launchballer 11:53, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

::::::Personally, I would say it is. Bearing in mind there may be more "Brighton Roads" we don't know about. aycliffetalk 14:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Delete, no redirect as lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. The "keepers" in the previous debate claimed notability as a Roman road, no source, and as an old London road (longevity ≠ notability). See Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features)#Roadways for actual standards. The A23 road road article has one unsourced mention of Brighton Road as newly renamed. --Bejnar (talk) 11:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ceradon (talk • contribs) 05:04, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Keep. The article is a stub; it is capable of expansion. I cannot see any benefit in deleting the article. If we go around deleting every stub article we find, we make it very difficult to build an encyclopedia.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

::{{Ping|Toddy1}} The article may be capable of expansion (by listing further buildings along its course, for example), but is it capable of achieving notability under the guidelines? If so, how? See WP:GNG and Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features)#Roadways --Bejnar (talk) 21:19, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.