Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/City rankings of Detroit

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These two articles are magnets for random factoids and trivia. They are indiscriminate lists and are hard to maintain. It's interesting to note that two of the three rankings for Detroit are not exactly about Detroit since one is about Hamtramck and one is about Metro Detroit. This shows that the criterion for inclusion in the list is somewhat arbitrary. The case of Seoul also shows fundamental problems with the concept. For instance, it lists Seoul as the 11th largest city proper in the world and as the first largest city proper in the OECD. While the first is of interest, the second is really choosing to re-rank cities from an arbitrary subset. (I mean that it's also true that Seoul is the largest city proper in the Korean Peninsula, the largest city proper in its time zone, the largest city proper in ASEAN.) Pichpich (talk) 13:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

• Delete - or merge applicable content to the city pages. We don't need parallel trivia repositories like this for each city on the planet. Carrite (talk) 14:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
• Keep - I can agree that the in the OECD classification is a bit weak, but these articles are stubs just getting started, and there are plenty of relevant facts that we can back up with reliable sources. Since we always need reliable citations, you're not going to find an article for Bumblefucknowhere ranking it as the 371297394th largest city in the world because there is no reliable source for that kind of truly trivial trivia on non-notable places. The Hamtramck datum we can remove too if you want since it is not about the entire city, but data like GDP per capita and total population in the city proper are relevant facts that I personally wanted to know: that's why I created the article. And I've never been to Detroit, so I don't have any kind of city pride invested in this; I just wanted to know the facts. If an editor adds random irrelevant factoids, we can just remove 'em via wiki consensus. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 15:31, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
• :But note that GDP per capita, population (with rank in the US) and density already appear in the city's infobox. Pichpich (talk) 20:05, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:50, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

• Delete—any applicable content should be in the main article already. Given the simplicity of the content, at least in the Detroit case, it would not be necessary to retain the article as a redirect for attribution purposes. Imzadi 1979 → 23:47, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
• Delete- A simple case of WP:IINFO. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 00:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

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