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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claudia Bryar

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 06:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

=[[Claudia Bryar]]=

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Contested PROD. My rationale is simply that there is no evidence that she meets the specific criteria of WP:ENTERTAINER or the general guidelines at WP:N, which require multiple, non-trivial sources in third-party publications. There seems to be little, if any, material that covers her as an individual, as opposed to trivial mentions of her various roles. Canadian Paul 07:33, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

  • Considering her extensive list of roles on IMDB, why should she not be included? It's not as though she was only in one episode of one TV show, she had a long history spanning 40 years. 81.89.48.128 (talk) 22:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
  • So where is that history properly and reliably documented outwith Wikipedia, then? Uncle G (talk) 01:10, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Just want to point out that normally articles on actors or actresses do not need other sources for their acting history beyond IMDB, as far as I am aware. 204.50.33.29 (talk) 03:20, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep per long and verifiable career in film, television, and theater that meets the caveats at WP:ENT.[http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Claudia+Bryar%22+source%3A%22-newswire%22+source%3A%22-wire%22+source%3A%22-presswire%22+source%3A%22-PR%22+source%3A%22-release%22+source%3A%22-wikipedia%22&btnG=Search+Archives&scoring=a] Not all of the results verifying her work are merely trivial, as she does receive some recognition for her stage work... as in the Los Angeles Times writing in one instance that "Claudia Bryar played Mme Ducotel with delicate sensitivity..." and in another "Claudia Bryar is absolutely splendid as Willy's loving loyal wife...", and yet another "Miss Claudia Bryar as his genteel American wife were solidly skilled and...", and another "Claudia Bryar is appealing as his wife still attractive but grown brittle...", etc. Stage reviews are more about the director and/or the story, so for an individual actress to receive even a few sentences of praise, in multiple theater reviews of multiple and various notable productions is indicative of her being worthy of note. It would be nice though to have her earlier theater career expanded. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:43, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep Re WP:NACTOR[http://books.google.com/books?as_brr=0&as_pub=-icon&q=%22Claudia+Bryar%22][http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Claudia+Bryar%22+source%3A%22-newswire%22+source%3A%22-wire%22+source%3A%22-presswire%22+source%3A%22-PR%22+source%3A%22-release%22+source%3A%22-wikipedia%22&btnG=Search+Archives&scoring=a] I agree with User:204.50.33.29 re the acting credits also, she has a list of acting credits going back to 1950s and an article on a character she portrayed Emma Spool and the rationale of User:MichaelQSchmidt. —Theda 20:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:33, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.