Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Destin Sparks

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The sources for this article do not seem to provide information to satisfy any of the four criteria under WP:CREATIVE. Although multiple awards are listed, the sources are either self-published or broken links. I attempted to find evidence, for example, of the Creative Asia Awards, but I was unable to find Sparks's name amongst the top 25 award recipients in any of the categories I was able to check. Another editor has previously noted that another of the awards was not supported by the provided independent source. Sparks has a social media internet presence but has not been verifiably covered by RS. Available news coverage seems to be local coverage of a vehicle accident in which a female with the same name was involved. Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 01:34, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:Agree. Several months ago I tried verifying the notability of this photographer (as well as the notability of the awards themselves), without success. The tone of the article seemed overly self-promotional. Bahudhara (talk) 03:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete. Self-promotional and spammy article, no evidence that "awards" have any notability. Subject fails WP:CREATIVE. WWGB (talk) 03:35, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep I believe the article is just outdated. Upon a quick search I've located four of Sparks' images in the top 50 places of the 'International Loupe Awards' medium format category http://www.loupeawards.com/Top50_12.php?CatId=93&Category=Landscape&Award=Medium I also found another news story featuring Sparks which is not cited in the article http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/destiny-sparks-passion-old-school-photography/1810943/

:It would appear he does have a photographic presence in Australia.

:— Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.165.10.159 (talk) 13:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:101.165.10.159 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. WWGB (talk) 02:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 21:23, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


I would like to weigh in again on the issue of awards, on which Bahudhara, WWGB and I are in agreement. Under WP:CREATIVE, 4c is where Sparks's work would be closest to notability. However, receiving 22nd place in one of at least 12 categories at a largely unknown online award competition (which itself does not appear to be the subject of much if any news attention) does not seem to constitute "significant critical attention". Furthermore, we should be able to establish notability without resorting to WP:OR: there should be multiple independent sources telling us what Sparks won and what it all means. With no disrespect to the artist, self-published sources and promotional material combined with original research do not establish notability. Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 15:17, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

:Then there are the Epson Pano Awards, another competition at which Sparks is said to have received several "bronze" mentions, although none of the given sources can be retrieved. Around 3200 entries received bronze or higher at this competition, out of [http://www.thepanoawards.com/winners12.php 3853 total submissions]. Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 15:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

::Regarding the two newspaper articles on Sparks, the one referenced in the article appeared in the Border Watch, a small regional daily newspaper in South Australia with an audited circulation of just [http://www.fairfaxregionalmedia.com.au/detail.asp?paper_id=137 6,814] (December 2012). The other one cited above by the anon IP appeared in the Sunshine Coast Daily, a regional newspaper in Queensland, which has an audited weekday circulation of [http://apnarm.com.au/print/daily/4626/ 15,086] (January to March 2013 - the figures in the WP article are out-of-date; the Sparks article appeared on Monday 1 April 2013). According to the List of newspapers in Australia by circulation, the Sunshine Coast Daily ranks 23rd in Australia. Bahudhara (talk) 09:11, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete - No signficant coverage about Sparks or his works in independent reliable sources. The awards section has been puffed up significantly. None of the photo competitions appear to be significant as they attracted no notice in reliable sources and the results are really just a bunch of honourable mentions as shown by each of the award pages: [http://www.loupeawards.com/prizesOpen.php], [http://www.thepanoawards.com/rules.php], [http://www.creativeasia.tv/PrizePool.php]. -- Whpq (talk) 13:59, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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