Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater Korea

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Doing some researching, I haven't found "Greater Korea" in use as an irredentist term (most of what turns up relates to the unification of North and South Korea).

Also, there's no sourcing in this article. Holdek (talk) 07:06, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete This is also not a neutral article (Baedo should be explained/glossed as Tsushima). These other claims could be added to the Irredentism#Korea. Imaginatorium (talk) 09:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge. The term exists.[http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PnVF8G9rCjcC&pg=PA41&dq=%22greater+korea%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0GJ2U_ivDYjWPebpgIgJ&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=%22greater%20korea%22&f=false][http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=G81RUy3KOFcC&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&dq=%22greater+korea%22&source=bl&ots=DDaqz1Qu26&sig=iMAIdFjk23blsfxulPPeQpVilCI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9l92U4GkMIW_PI6_gNgL&ved=0CCsQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=%22greater%20korea%22&f=false][http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zdqAakpAeloC&pg=PA363&lpg=PA363&dq=%22greater+korea%22&source=bl&ots=UWtRtQagvp&sig=kd7K_1BcVRxCBQmbX_kU5ZMqQoM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9l92U4GkMIW_PI6_gNgL&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=%22greater%20korea%22&f=false] It is a Pan-Korean nationalist idea. Fakirbakir (talk) 19:04, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

::The first of your references says: "...strong obstacle to greater Korea-Southeast Asia relations." So the word "greater" is followed by the word "Korea", but this is not evidence that this term exists. Please check the other references yourself, and see if they do even refer to "Greater Korea". In any case, there is no content to the article, except to list Korea's various claims over bits of territory outside its current borders, which can be done somewhere else. Imaginatorium (talk) 19:33, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

:::Read the whole sentence. It explains Korean nationalism. Anyway, the third source even mentions the "concept of Greater Korea". Fakirbakir (talk) 19:49, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

::::Why not just refer to the terms existence in Korean_nationalism#Manchuria_and_Gando_Disputes or Irredentism#Korea, rather than have a whole article on it?Jonpatterns (talk) 10:01, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

:::::A merge with Korean nationalism would be also fine with me. Fakirbakir (talk) 10:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Redirect to Irredentism#Korea. The concept seems to exist: [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=B3M-DhGYtF4C&pg=PA193&dq=%22In+turn,+China+fears+that+a+unified+Korea+may+claim+a+%E2%80%9CGreater+Korea,%E2%80%9D+including+the+Yanbian+area,+where,+in+addition+to+about+3+million+ethnic+Koreans%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Gyl3U4X5I8SR7AbrxYD4AQ&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22In%20turn%2C%20China%20fears%20that%20a%20unified%20Korea%20may%20claim%20a%20%E2%80%9CGreater%20Korea%2C%E2%80%9D%20including%20the%20Yanbian%20area%2C%20where%2C%20in%20addition%20to%20about%203%20million%20ethnic%20Koreans%22&f=false]. However, apparently there are not enough data to write a separate article about the expansionist ambitions over "Gando and neighboring parts of Russia where about three million ethnic Koreans live". Avpop (talk) 09:05, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
• Expand or redirect. The concept is probably notable, based my overview of Google Books, through I couldn't find a single dedicated work/definition. Unless this is expanded, in the current stub version it's a bit ORish and I'd encourage merging to nationalism in Korea. PS. The correct target article doesn't even exist; editors interested in this topic should probably focus on the clearly notable topic like this rather than a more fringe term like Greater Korea. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:21, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

::nationalism in Korea would cover the same information as Korean nationalism, maybe redirect there?

:::Yes, dear anon, that's a good target. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Merge - there isn't enough information for its own article, it could usefully be merged into Korean_nationalism#Manchuria_and_Gando_Disputes or Irredentism#Korea.Jonpatterns (talk) 07:15, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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