Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Sayers  (2nd nomination)

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Fails GNG, average non-notable local politician TheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and New Zealand. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Businesspeople. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
• Snow keep The New Zealand politics task force agreed many years ago that three types of New Zealand politicians have inherent notability, namely legislative councillors, MPs, and Auckland councillors. The latter group was included because as their councillors represent way more people than any electorate MP does. Needless to say, Auckland councillors thus get a lot of media coverage.
• Delete unless somebody can actually add the kind of content and sourcing it takes to properly establish the notability of a city councillor. The New Zealand task force doesn't get to carve out its own special New Zealand-specific exemptions from notability criteria — in any country, city councillors can keep articles that are reliably sourced and feature substantive content about the person's political impact (specific things they did, specific projects they spearheaded, specific effects their work had on the development of the city, and on and so forth), but in no country are city councillors ever exempted from the article having to be a lot more than just a bunch of primary sourced election results. So this could be kept if somebody's actually willing to put some effort into improving it, but its current state of substance and sourcing is not adequate at all. I'll grant that Auckland is a large and prominent enough city that such improvement may very well be possible, which is why I left that open for an "I could be persuaded to change my mind" proviso, but there's no automatic presumption of notability for a city councillor in the absence of such content and sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 14:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:Delete the only independent article that provides coverage of the person that I could find is this: [https://www.localmatters.co.nz/auckland-council/new-role-for-rodney-councillor/]

:It doesn't matter what some Wikiproject taskforce agreed upon nor can you snow keep when you are the only one voting keep, GNG/NBIO is what matters here. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom, Bearcat and Traumnovelle. Classic case of trying to clear a notability bar which is less a limbo bar and more of a stick lying on the ground. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 04:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
• Keep This Councillor is one of the most notable in Auckland Council, being number three in the power structure. He works at a central Government level which other Auckland Councillors do not. He meets the Wiki criteria for inclusion well ahead of other Auckland Councillors who are currently not nominated for deletion review. LorryMcc, 11 January 2025 — LorryMcc (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. {{#if:|There's an SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/{{{spi}}}.{{sp}}|}}
• Weak delete as I don't think local councillors in NZ should get special exemption from WP:GNG, and this person doesn't quite pas GNG to me. There are some Stuff articles about their election but I don't think its enough to for GNG. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 03:34, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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