Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hermes Conrad (3rd nomination)

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Clearly does not meet WP:GNG as there is not significant coverage independent of the subject. The only reference that is not directly from the TV show is a video interview of the voice actor from Comedy Central [http://www.cc.com/video-clips/k8j9ne/futurama-the-voices-of-futurama---phil-lamarr-on-hermes]. In the last AfD the article was redirected to List of Futurama characters but was undone by {{ping|WuTang94}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hermes_Conrad_(2nd_nomination)]. Unless sufficient reliable sources independent from the show can be found to establish notability this article should be deleted or redirected back to List of Futurama characters. Spy-cicle (talk) 20:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Spy-cicle (talk) 20:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Spy-cicle (talk) 20:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

• Redirect as per last AfD. Nothing has changed since then.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:07, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
• @{{u|Spy-cicle}} I revived the Hermes Conrad page as he is one of the seven primary characters on Futurama and with the page being deleted, I did not see any Futurama articles with a description of Hermes. At the time, Hermes was the only main character without a page. Nonetheless, after taking a better look at the Hermes page and that of the other main characters, I agree with you now. However, instead of simply redirecting to the general list of characters, I propose that we could merge the other Futurama characters pages into one, such as merging the Hermes page with Amy Wong, Zoidberg, and Hubert J. Farnsworth into something like Other primary characters on Futurama, as the other three characters don't seem to have enough notability either (discuss here). The articles for Philip J. Fry, Bender (Futurama), and Leela (Futurama) seem to have enough notability, however. --WuTang94 (talk) 22:35, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
• {{re|WuTang94|Spy-cicle}} I don't think "Other primary characters on Futurama" sounds like a workable title. Better we merge those three articles and List of Futurama characters into List of recurring Futurama characters and revamp it as a reformed "List of Futurama characters". FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 02:15, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
• {{ping|WuTang94}} Seems like a possible solution however Other primary characters on Futurama sounds clunky possibly Secondary characters on Futurama?Spy-cicle (talk) 18:26, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
• {{ping|Spy-cicle}} That could work as well, though I've also received some feedback that we could simply expand List of Futurama characters to have detailed descriptions of the secondary characters, in addition to having short descriptions of the three primary characters and links to their page. I've started working on that section and copied about 95% of the content in Hermes' current page to that section. Might also do the same to Amy, Professor, and Zoidberg. --WuTang94 (talk) 18:43, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
• {{{ping|WuTang94}} That seems to be like a good solution. Spy-cicle (talk) 19:00, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
• Redirect per the previous AfDs. The article still fails to establish notability. TTN (talk) 11:36, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
• Simply redirecting to that page without providing at least one or two paragraphs won't do much good, though it's looking more likely that Hermes will be redirected there. I'll work on a section on List of Futurama characters that more adequately describes the main and supporting characters, including Hermes. --WuTang94 (talk) 15:34, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
• Redirect To List of Futurama characters - that page needs to be pruned, and List of recurring Futurama characters either merged or outright deleted for being WP:INDISCRIMINATE._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
• Redirect To List of Futurama characters.4meter4 (talk) 22:56, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

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