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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Lusk

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to American_Idol_(season_10)#Finalists. (non-admin closure) Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

=[[Jacob Lusk]]=

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This person is not notable at all besides AI. He is not signed to a label and has not released any songs. Babar Suhail (talk) 23:25, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

::Strong keep It has been English Wikipedia's consensus regarding American Idol at least, that all 12 finalists of all seasons get their own pages regardless of what success they have later on. I don't know how fair this is, as this is not applied to other country Idol competitions, or to other reality TV competitions like X Factor, The Voice etc. but this is the way it is. I am ready for someone initiating a general discussion on all American Idol contestant articles. Once our present consensus is changed after a general discussion, individual articles deletions may be contemplated. But nominating just Jacob Lusk out of all American Idol contestants seems unfair and unwaranted to me. Keep this article for now and initiate a general discussion if you will. werldwayd (talk) 23:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

:::Reply - could you point me to the policy / guidleine / discussion in which this consensus is codified? -- Whpq (talk) 17:46, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep An article about an American Idol finalist that has multiple, reliable sources passes WP:MUSICBIO #1 & 9 and passes WP:GNG. I find it sad that as the article's creator I was not notified of this AfD. Aspects (talk) 22:48, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment - The current edition of WP:MUSICBIO includes the admonsihment at the end: Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated they are independently notable. -- Whpq (talk) 23:15, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep Jacob Lusk satisfies the criteria under WP:MUSBIO under #4 and 9. He finished fifth in Season 10 and it is considered placed to have finished within the top 10 in American Idol, and he participated in a national tour in th US (tour dates also included Canada and the Philippines) which is ranked #38 in the [http://www.pollstarpro.com/files/charts2011/2011YearEndTop200NorthAmericanTours.pdf Top 200 North American Tour of 2011]] . Hzh (talk) 15:12, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jujutacular (talk) 15:39, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep per WP:MUSBIO #1 and #4. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Redirect to American Idol (season 10)#finalist. There is no standalone notability here; to the editors quoting WP:MUSICBIO, I'd remind them that there is a specific exception for reality show contestants. Lusk is not known for anything outside of his participation in American Idol - and he didn't even finish in the top three. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:22, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep A great article! It must be saved. Sources are independent and reliable sources... Samuel petan (talk) 14:22, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Can you explain how those sources identify him as indpendently notable from Idol? -- Whpq (talk) 16:08, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Yash [talk] 04:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 05:34, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Redirect to American_Idol_(season_10)#Finalists. In nearly two years, Jacob Lusk has not achieved anything notable aside from American Idol and the only recent evidence of him is this which is a minor mention. The "Keep" votes have failed to clarify how he is notable aside from American Idol. Although one user mentioned he participated in a 2011 tour, this wouldn't be enough (and it was during his American Idol time) and several non-notable musicians have participated in tours. SwisterTwister talk 22:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Agreed with the above to Redirect to American_Idol_(season_10)#Finalists. He is never cited outside of that context. Alfy32 (talk) 03:26, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.