Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Goodness

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A bit part in a single DSN episode doesn't confer notability, and I see no mention of a "Harry" character in Crazy for You. JaGatalk 04:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

:*Keep* The "non-notability" argument weakens as Wikipedia becomes more comprehensive. Inclusion on IMDB and IBDB mitigate for the retention of this article. Harry is definitely in the cast list for this musical, even if not shewn on the Wikipedia entry; see these cast lists: [http://www.shhslions.com/amadeifaculty/crazyforyoucastlist.pdf] [http://www.stageagent.com/Shows/View/1411] [http://rjcperforms.blogspot.com/2009/05/cast-list-crazy-for-you.html]DavidFarmbrough (talk) 05:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

::Are you saying that notability requirements for Wikipedia articles automatically decrease over time (as Wikipedia gets bigger)? Nczempin (talk) 13:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

:::Yes. We have seen this happen. DavidFarmbrough (talk) 23:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

  • WP:NACTOR states a notable actor: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." This guy is pretty far from that threshold. Basically two roles, neither significant.--JaGatalk 17:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rjd0060 (talk) 07:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


  • Delete for failing NACTOR. IMDb is showing one credit, for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, fewer than is claimed in the article. IBDb shows one as well; this might or might not be a significant role in a notable stage musical, but regardless, one is not enough. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete. I agree, there is not quite enough here to meet WP:NACTOR. The Broadway part was "ensemble," according to IBDB and the DS9 part doesn't appear to be significant enough to have had a name. Ubelowme U Me 16:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete as failing WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:34, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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