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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelle Marie

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 13:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

=[[Kelle Marie]]=

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Possible failure of WP:PORNBIO. She has only been nominated for one award, not across multiple year. Being Penthouse Pet of the Month does not satisfy notability criteria and she only appears to have appeared in one video not 'featured multiple times in notable mainstream media.' EuroPride (talk) 17:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

::Like hell is PORNBIO depreciated! Tabercil (talk) 01:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Tabercil (talk) 01:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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  • So what happens if the person does not get multiple notable nominations, but seems to push at WP:GNG anyway? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
  • And are any of the 75 films or 3 Television programs [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1083337/filmoyear listed here] mainstream? And did the two films she directed get any positive reviews? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 08:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

::Dunno about what she directed, but the listings on IMDB look to be whole adult-oriented material; the only one that might not be is the "Sex, Footballers and Videotape" entry. Tabercil (talk) 12:32, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

:::Well... Howard Stern has won enough awards to be considered notable and "mainstream" enough, and Sex, Footballers and Videotape might itself be notable enough for an article per such as [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20040815/ai_n12590242/ Sunday Herald], [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20040815/ai_n12590249/ Sunday Herald], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/aug/20/dailystar.pressandpublishing The Guardian], [http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-12636739-footballers-exposed.do Evening Standard], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/aug/22/sport.comment The Guardian], [http://www.scottishmediamonitor.com/articles2.cfm?ID=146 Scottish Media Monitor], [http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/200806413198788?chooseNews=UK_News Sky News], and a few others... so if that film is seen as notable, and with her appearance on the Stearns show to be definitely featured, she might just be barely edging up on "featured multiple times in notable mainstream media"... though yes, her role in the film does not seem to be at all major. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q.

:::: The standard ARS tactic of googlebombing with random references that have little or no content, and little or nothing to do with the subject is depreciated. Hipocrite (talk) 04:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

:::::@ Hipocrite: Pardon me if I not not appreciate your negative and bad faith accusation toward myself and the Article Rescue Squadron. Attempting to negatively color this discussion by denigrating the efforts of several hundered contributing members of the ARS with your statement "...standard ARS tactic of googlebombing with random references that have little or no content" is unhelpful to this discussion, and is incorrect in that there is no such "standard practice" used by the 347 ARS members. Even if you feel one or two might do so, denigrating the other 345 is not at all helpful. I am trying to civilly determine whether or not to support this deletion. In addressing Tabercil's comment about the non-porn film "Sex, Footballers and Videotape", and in determining whether or not it might itself be seen as "notable mainstream media, I offered [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20040815/ai_n12590242/ Sunday Herald], [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20040815/ai_n12590249/ Sunday Herald], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/aug/20/dailystar.pressandpublishing The Guardian], [http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-12636739-footballers-exposed.do Evening Standard], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/aug/22/sport.comment The Guardian], [http://www.scottishmediamonitor.com/articles2.cfm?ID=146 Scottish Media Monitor], and [http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/200806413198788?chooseNews=UK_News Sky News] as links that specifically dealt with that film... and which might even merit the film having its own article. So please, shall we stay on topic? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep She has two acceptably notable appearances, and Penthouse PotM, and the rest of her body may be adult only, but is substantial. I actually found her article after reading a reference to her, which is the point of Wikipedia.Mzmadmike (talk) 20:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep For the three reasons listed in the article itself. She was the Penthouse Pet of the Month for May 2001.[1] In the Andrew Blake 2003 film Hard Edge, noted by AVN as one of the 500 Greatest Adult Films of All Time.[2] In 2007 Kelle Marie was featured in a Good Magazine produced online video about Internet pornography.[3] Sounds like three notable things to me. Dream Focus 06:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

::Comment - How are those things notable? There is consensus that being Playmate/pet of the month does not assert notability. Being in a film that was named as 1 of 500 films is not really notable and the online video appears to be totally non-notable. EuroPride (talk) 15:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.