Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kobe Bryant's 81-point game

=[[Kobe Bryant's 81-point game]]=

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Fails WP:N -- the game did not establish a new scoring record, or come particularly close to breaking the old record. Furthermore, the article content is a direct lift from Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point game and is therefore factually incorrect in the article's context. Myasuda (talk) 13:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

:Strong Keep and Expand It did come close and essspiacly for a gurad. We can just expand and fix your other issues. Leave Message, Yellow Evan home

  • Delete Non-notable game. Yes 81 points is impressive, but it's not a record and and not all that notable. TJ Spyke 14:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Merge It might be notable, but not enough for its own article. A bit about this in Kobe's article is enough. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete Not really notable enough, and is really not that important, and this article is of extremely poor quality. Darren23 (Contribs) 14:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm on the fence about this one, because his 81-point game truly IS a notable achievement (second highest scoring output in the highest professional basketball league worldwide is, IMHO, notable), but I say delete because I fear it sets a dangerous trend. Anyone who scores a ton of points in a game (for argument's sake, much more than the usual) could potentially have his or her own page about that game. Chances are it won't be as notable as Wilt's or Kobe's accomplishments. Jrcla2 15:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete Per CB and D23.Leave Message, Yellow Evan home
  • Delete This consists of someone copying the first paragraph of the Wilt Chamberlain article. It would have been a neat trick for Kobe Bryant to score any points on March 2, 1962. That notwithstanding, the game can be described in the article about Kobe Bryant. Yes, 81 points in a basketball game is impressive, but it's not its own article. Mandsford (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete no disputing the achievement is impressive, but there is no justification for a separate article. It can easily be described in Bryant's article, the relevant season article, a list of NBA scoring recorts, etc. Resolute 19:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Kobe_Bryant#Back to the top (2008–09). Not notable for a whole article but since it is mentioned in Bryant's man article a redirect is appropriate. meshach (talk) 21:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Redirect per meshach, a viable search term. StarM 02:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Redirect - unnecessary content fork—Chris! ct 02:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment I've stubbed the article and corrected the inaccuracies. Now, I think we should give it a chance to grow. Bryant may not have set the record, but he scored more points than any NBA player in four decades, and received all kinds of attention for it: [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22kobe+bryant%22+%2281+points%22+&btnG=Search&hl=en&ned=us&um=1&scoring=a]. If Knicks-Nuggets brawl can become a GA, than surely this article can, as well. It just needs a little attention. Zagalejo^^^ 07:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment This is an important feat in NBA history, it was not only the second-highest scoring performance in league's history, but this is in fact the highest-scoring output ever to be recorded for television. It is also important as it is Kobe Bryant's highest scoring mark and even if some people don't consider this relevant NBA History, it should however be considered relevant for Kobe Bryant's biography and profile page. Article should stay! Anybody who scores 65+ points in an NBA game with the hardest competition in the world should get its own page of the single match-up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mookiebomber (talkcontribs) 19:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:I agree that this is notable, but there simply aren't enough info for it to be in a separate article.—Chris! ct 04:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

:How about the statistics, the media reaction it got, it was a massive performance in sports. Other one other time had there been anything remotely similar. I believe it desveres a page, just google "Kobe Bryant 81" and see all of the things you come up with, it is an important day for basketball history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mookiebomber (talkcontribs) 07:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

::I agree with Mookiebomber. There's enough to write a respectable, stand-alone article. We could describe the game in more detail, and summarize the reaction and analysis of it. Maybe we could only churn out two or three paragraphs, but that would still be enough to justify a spinout. Of course, the current article isn't very helpful, so if people want to make it a redirect for the time being, I'd be fine with that. But we should definitely allow for future expansion. Zagalejo^^^ 18:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Merge & Redirect to Kobe Bryant. Not enough information to warrant a standalone article. Would probably make an exception for Wilt's 100 point game, since that is the record, but this game is not. Still, it is obviously important enough within the context of Bryant's career to be discussed within Kobe's article. Rlendog (talk) 16:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

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