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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kryshen Valerii

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 02:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

=[[Kryshen Valerii]]=

:{{la|Kryshen Valerii}} – (View AfDView log{{int:dot-separator}} [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/votecounter.cgi?page=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kryshen_Valerii Stats])

:({{Find sources|Kryshen Valerii}})

Prodded for lack of notability, deprodded by anon/creator. Aside from being a total mess, I am struggling to find any evidence of notability. If on some weird chance this is not delete, please wikify this as a draft, my eyes bleed after trying to read it... PS. Considering the creator's username ({{user|Kryshenvalery}}) this also seems like an WP:AUTOBIO. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete. Non-notable surgeon, needs better sources and a truckload of copy editing. Howicus (talk) 19:17, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:BIO PianoDan (talk) 19:29, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep Actually, I think he is notable. This is a crude translation of the article on him in the Ukrainian WP. [http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кришень_Валерій_Павлович]; even the Google translation of that article gives a more readable version. he's a professor in one of the major Ukrainian medical schools, and apparently has been elected to their national academy of sciences, and is included in their national encyclopedia. I admit, tho, I cannot verify it. And although normally I accept the judgment of the other language WPs for subjects in their own national area, biographies can be an exception, since the other WPs are as liable to spamming as we are. DGG ( talk ) 20:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Would you care to rewrite the article from gibberish into something readable then? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:52, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
  • In order to establish notability for the English Wikipedia, you need reliable secondary sources in English. PianoDan (talk) 03:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Incorrect. English is not a requirement. Uncle G (talk) 10:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete a total mess, and, as far as I can discern the meaning of the next, not actually notable. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:09, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:09, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:09, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep needs substantial work, but findings above plus [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Kryshen%20v this Pubmed search] indicate notability (my impression is that these 28 publications are attributable to this surgeon). -- Scray (talk) 01:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 00:40, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep per DGG Longevitydude (talk) 01:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
  • In between Starblind's "total mess" and Scray's "needs substantial work" I actually edited the article so that it was more like coherent English. The article owner, who is clearly the subject (both by account name and where the IP address geolocates to), {{diff|Kryshen Valerii|532368087|531588456|immediately put many of the spelling, punctuation, and grammatical mistakes back in}}. Uncle G (talk) 09:38, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
  • I suggest reverting him. For now I tagged the article with a bunch of applicable tags (if this AFD is keep, notability one can probably go). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
  • I don't really have the incentive to clean up after Valerii Pavlovich a second time. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 14:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep per the national academy membership and WP:PROF#C3. I did a little cleanup but a lot more is needed. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.